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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:20PM
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If my opponent has turned gideon into a creature can i tragic slip?
related question
If gideon is a creature and i use a creature ability to turn him into a defender will my effect fall off when he reverts or will it be there everytime he changes from planeswalker to creature?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:21PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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If my opponent has turned gideon into a creature can i tragic slip?
yes
If gideon is a creature and i use a creature ability to turn him into a defender will my effect fall off when he reverts or will it be there everytime he changes from planeswalker to creature?
depends on the wording of the creature ability
Gelid Shackles  ? no
Xathrid Gorgon  ? yes
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:23PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 28, 2010
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you can use Tragic Slip  on Gideon Xathrid Gorgon 's counter will remain on Gideon and it will stop its loyalty abilities from being activated, so he can't turn back into a creature if you mean another card, please specify
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:24PM
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thats the one. i could not remember the name
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:26PM
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so wait if i do that to gideon he cant use his planswalker abilities at all
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:27PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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so wait if i do that to gideon he cant use his planswalker abilities at all
correct, loyalty abilities are activated abilities
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4 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 3:21AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 12, 2011
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Xathrid Gorgon 's counter will remain on Gideon and it will stop its loyalty abilities from being activated, so he can't turn back into a creature
if you mean another card, please specify
The counter is irrelevant actually, it's just a reminder, it doesn't have any effect at all. No matter if it stays on, or is removed, or was never put there, the effect from the resolution of the Gorgon's ability is what's keeping the permanent from using its activated abilities, not the counter.
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