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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 6:53PM #1
Shard_Fenix
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When could I cast a card that's both an Instant and a Sorcery? The restriction for casting a sorcery would still apply, right? I would only be able to cast this on my main phase when the stack's empty?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 6:55PM #2
tanuki-mario
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What card is this? Or how could this happen?

My gatherer search for a card that is both an instant and a sorcery, yielded no results.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 6:56PM #3
Enigma256
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I'd say Instant "wins"
just like Flash "wins"
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 6:57PM #4
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Feb 14, 2013 -- 6:55PM, tanuki-mario wrote:

What card is this? Or how could this happen?

My gatherer search for a card that is both an instant and a sorcery, yielded no results.


that's why it is hypothetical

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 7:00PM #5
tanuki-mario
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Feb 14, 2013 -- 6:57PM, Enigma256 wrote:

Feb 14, 2013 -- 6:55PM, tanuki-mario wrote:

What card is this? Or how could this happen?

My gatherer search for a card that is both an instant and a sorcery, yielded no results.


that's why it is hypothetical




Well then, only the second part of my post is relevant.

Is there any way that this could actually happen? Or are you guys just burning time?

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 7:21PM #6
Glimmereyes
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Feb 14, 2013 -- 6:56PM, Enigma256 wrote:

I'd say Instant "wins"
just like Flash "wins"



I'd vote Instant timing as well since the ability/effect would be a extremely niche bordering on pointless if it had to retain the non-instant timing.

Although, you can also make the case that if you wanted to cast a non-instant spell at instant timing, why bother reinventing the wheel when you could just slap Flash on it.  Since we're creating a whole new ability, it should have a different effect.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 8:22PM #7
Shard_Fenix
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It's for a mechanic that cares about card types.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 9:23PM #8
FezzHead
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304.1. A player who has priority may cast an instant card from his or her hand. Casting an instant as a
spell uses the stack. (See rule 601, "Casting Spells.")

307.1. A player who has priority may cast a sorcery card from his or her hand during a main phase of
his or her turn when the stack is empty. Casting a sorcery as a spell uses the stack. (See rule 601,
"Casting Spells.")

The rules for sorceries specify when you may cast them. The rules for instants provide broader permission to cast them. There is no contradiction here. You can cast an Instant Sorcery any time you could cast an Instant.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 9:29PM #9
Shard_Fenix
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I was looking at sorcery timing as a restriction, rather than an absence of permission. I guess I have to add text to my custom card (it would be pretty broken if you could EOT it).
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 10:51PM #10
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You could perhaps give it.......


Generic sorcery #671

Sorcery

Flash

Draw a card.



Or something to that effect, but I'd really think instant would overrule.
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