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4 months ago ::
Feb 14, 2013 - 6:26PM
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Hello, everybody. As mentioned in the title, I'm pretty new to the standard environment, and I would like some deck help. Here's what I've got thus far: Total (60 x ) Land (25 x ) 2 x Evolving Wilds 3 x Kessig Wolf Run 4 x Stomping Ground 4 x Rootbound Crag 7 x Forest 5 x Mountain Creatures (19 x ) 4 x Arbor Elf 4 x Ghor-Clan Rampager 4 x Wolfir Silverheart 4 x Soul of the Harvest 3 x Giant Adephage Sorceries (8 x ) 4 x Farseek 4 x Mizzium Mortars Enchantments (4 x ) 4 x Rancor Planeswalkers (4 x ) 2 x Domri Rade 2 x Garruk, Primal Hunter Sideboard (15 x ) 4 x Fog 3 x Gruul Charm 2 x Naturalize 3 x Pit Fight 3 x Skullcrack Some problems I have with this deck are that I seem to have a lack of answers to anything, especially aggro. I'd also like some help constructing an actual sideboard, as opposed to the cards I have cobbled together now, and fixing my mana curve. Lastly, I'd like to keep this as cheap as possible. (Dual-lands are a goal to aspire to, not a reality. Feel free to suggest temporary replacements.) Thanks for any help you're willing to give, as well as for putting up with another noob with a poorly made deck. :P
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4 months ago ::
Feb 14, 2013 - 9:06PM
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Well first of all... That isn't 60 cards... it's only 52. Drop the Adephages and 1 domri to add in 4 [C]Elvish Archdruid[C], ramp is gonna be very important to you. Also, I'd say drop the other domri rade as well along with 2 land to play your 3 gruul charms. T1 Land + Arbor Elf, T2 Land + Archdruid, T3 Land + Soul of the Harvest. T4 silverheart and blood rush the rampager onto Soul. Swing for 12 trample. Of course, that's with a perfect hand and not being forced to cast any of your other spells. Domri Rade doesn't seem to have a place in this deck the Soul covers his +1 pretty well, and his -2 is good but not really unnecessary in this deck until late game. But hopefully you will have them beat a lot sooner then later. Those are the major changes I would make but over all I like the deck, I'm not a huge fan of gruul but this is definitely very playable in standard right now. I went ahead and just made a whole new deck list based off of your with the changes I was talking about along with some other cards added in as well. Land 2 x Evolving Wilds 2 x Kessig Wolf Run 4 x Stomping Ground 4 x Rootbound Crag 8 x Forest 4 x Mountain Creatures 4 x Arbor Elf 4 x Elvish Visionary 4 x Elvish Archdruid 4 x Ghor-Clan Rampager 4 x Wolfir Silverheart 4 x Soul of the Harvest Other Spells 4 x Skullcrack 4 x Rancor 4 x Gruul Charm
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 6:41AM
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any deck running 7 drop creatures AND rancor is not doing something correct
Blue is the best color ever. How do you deal? Team GFG - "gulf, foxtrot, gulf" Twitter: Burning_Forest ------------------------------------------------------ I started making some Dubstep and Electronica. Check me out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLxlHeE1rg My Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/whitefender69?feature=mhee It is a little bit chill. Let me know what you think.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 7:06AM
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Rancor is to swing with the elves late game if your still not getting through. Everything pretty much has trample already except the elves. So it just helps out a lot late game.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 7:14AM
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Rancor is to swing with the elves late game if your still not getting through. Everything pretty much has trample already except the elves. So it just helps out a lot late game.
you missed my point
Blue is the best color ever. How do you deal? Team GFG - "gulf, foxtrot, gulf" Twitter: Burning_Forest ------------------------------------------------------ I started making some Dubstep and Electronica. Check me out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLxlHeE1rg My Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/whitefender69?feature=mhee It is a little bit chill. Let me know what you think.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 7:24AM
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Ya know Forest instead of smiting, you could always try and help? Thats what i thought this was for. Or am i mistaken? Thragtusk is a pree tasty card to play with, and i also like Clan Defiance . End of the day its up to you =]
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 8:36AM
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Ya know Forest instead of smiting, you could always try and help? Thats what i thought this was for. Or am i mistaken?
Thragtusk is a pree tasty card to play with, and i also like Clan Defiance .
End of the day its up to you =]
i did help. i pointed out the obvious.
decks shouldn't run creatures that cost 7 mana AND run rancor. if you have a deck doing this, you're making a mistake in your deckbuilding process. re-evaluate.
if this was to become truly competetive, then i'd direct him to any number of recent R/G aggro lists that have come out in the last week or 2. there are plenty via google, the mothership, or something like SCG/CFB.
Blue is the best color ever. How do you deal? Team GFG - "gulf, foxtrot, gulf" Twitter: Burning_Forest ------------------------------------------------------ I started making some Dubstep and Electronica. Check me out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLxlHeE1rg My Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/whitefender69?feature=mhee It is a little bit chill. Let me know what you think.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 8:39AM
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I wanna hate you. But you make a valid point. Fml.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:20PM
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Well first of all... That isn't 60 cards... it's only 52.
Drop the Adephages and 1 domri to add in 4 Elvish Archdruid , ramp is gonna be very important to you. Also, I'd say drop the other domri rade as well along with 2 land to play your 3 gruul charms.
It seems that I forgot all of my sorceries... Added them into the OP.
I'll see about the Adephages and Domri vs the Archdruid, though Farseek does help, and I'm a little wary of removing trample creatures, since that is sort of this deck's focus.
Thanks for the suggestions. 
Thragtusk is a pretty tasty card to play with, and I also like Clan Defiance .
I did originally have Clan defiance, but it got removed to make room. :/ Thragtusk, while awesome, doesn't really seem to fit. I was aiming for trample as a means of winning, and I've just loved silverheart's ability to hugely buff my tramplers that I didn't want to cut it. Thanks for the help. 
i did help. i pointed out the obvious.
decks shouldn't run creatures that cost 7 mana AND run rancor. if you have a deck doing this, you're making a mistake in your deckbuilding process. re-evaluate.
if this was to become truly competetive, then i'd direct him to any number of recent R/G aggro lists that have come out in the last week or 2. there are plenty via google, the mothership, or something like SCG/CFB.
My deckbuilding process is very flawed. I'm new, and so don't really know the best ways of going about making a deck quite yet. Please feel free to help me get better.
Also, this isn't supposed to be super competitive, just able to hold its own and take a win every now and then.
Lastly, I don't like googling decks, because while it does help me find which cards are good, it doesn't really help me learn why. That's why I came here, where people more often than not explain their choices and suggestions. Thanks for the advice though.
If anyone is willing to give feedback on either decks or cards I've made, please pm me or post in the thread (should it exist). It would be much appreciated. "Decks"
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"WUB Myr - Casual"
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"U Illusions - Casual"
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"BR Vampires - Casual"
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"BR Burn - Casual"
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"WG Tokens - Casual"
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"W Exalted Lifelink - Standard"
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"BG Sacrifice - Standard"
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"WB Orzhov Extort - Standard"
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"Cards & Mechanics"
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:36PM
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honestly, the best learning tool is to go out and play. go to FNM, ask questions, get advice from people in person. i think it's difficult to convey the ideas over the internet, but if you can see things working in person, they'll be much more impactful on you. there should be enough people at any given FNM who are more than happy to answer questions, give advice, make suggestions, tell you play situations, etc.
worked for me anyways
Blue is the best color ever. How do you deal? Team GFG - "gulf, foxtrot, gulf" Twitter: Burning_Forest ------------------------------------------------------ I started making some Dubstep and Electronica. Check me out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLxlHeE1rg My Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/whitefender69?feature=mhee It is a little bit chill. Let me know what you think.
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