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Magic: The Gathering Rules Q&A Several questions: Imagecrafter, block/sacrifice
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 7:48AM #1
rapyel
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2013
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Hey there,

I've got several questions regarding a few rules:

1. Imagecrafter
The ability says: "Choose a creature type other than Wall. Target creature becomes that type until end of turn."
Does that mean the creature type you choose is ADDED to the original type or does it completely REPLACE it?
I've got a mate who argues that it's only added, because I tend to change the creature type of his zombies so he won't get any additional boni by cards like "Undead warchief" or "Lord of the Undead". He argues that the new creature type is added, so the card would still be a zombie and get the boni.

2. Can you block a creature and sacrifice your card at the same time?
Additionally, if possible: can you block and tap + sacrifice at the same time?


Thank you for your help,
Peter 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 7:53AM #2
rezzahan
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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1) Imagecrafter doesn't say "in addition to its other types", so it overwrites all creature types the creature previously had.

Edit: In case you need rules support:

205.1a Some effects set an object’s card type. In such cases, the new card type(s) replaces any existing card types. Counters, effects, and damage marked on the object remain with it, even if they are meaningless to the new card type. Similarly, when an effect sets one or more of an object’s subtypes, the new subtype(s) replaces any existing subtypes from the appropriate set (creature types, land types, artifact types, enchantment types, planeswalker types, or spell types). If an object’s card type is removed, the subtypes correlated with that card type will remain if they are also the subtypes of a card type the object currently has; otherwise, they are also removed for the entire time the object’s card type is removed. Removing an object’s subtype doesn’t affect its card types at all.

205.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is "still a [type, supertype, or subtype]." Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.


2) Not at the same time, but it is possible to block and then tap/sacrifice the blocking creature before combat damage, as long as there is something allowing you to. If the blocker doesn't exist anymore, the blocked creature will remain blocked and will deal no combat damage to the player/planeswalker it's attacking unless it has trample or a similar ability.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 7:56AM #3
puzzledmint
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1. If a type-changing effect is an addition, it will say so . If it doesn't say so , it's a replacement.

2. Players receive priority after blockers are declared. Barring some oddball effect that prevents blocking creatures from being tapped or sacrificed, you can do anything you could do at any other time you have priority as long as you obey the timing restrictions (can't cast non-instants without flash, etc). A blocked creature remains blocked, and can't assign damage to a player unless it has trample or supertrample .
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 8:34AM #4
Enigma256
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Feb 14, 2013 -- 7:56AM, puzzledmint wrote:

1. If a type-changing effect is an addition, it will say so . If it doesn't say so , it's a replacement.


exception: if it is turned into an "artifact creature" that implies "in addition to its other types"

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 8:50AM #5
rapyel
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2013
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Thank you for the clarification - much appreciated

Feb 14, 2013 -- 8:34AM, Enigma256 wrote:

Feb 14, 2013 -- 7:56AM, puzzledmint wrote:

1. If a type-changing effect is an addition, it will say so . If it doesn't say so , it's a replacement.


exception: if it is turned into an "artifact creature" that implies "in addition to its other types"



I might be wrong, but I thought it would be impossible to change a non-artifact creature into an artifact creature? (Resource: forums.mtgvault.com/showthread.php?t=543...)

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 8:54AM #6
Enigma256
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Artifact is not a creature type (it's a card type)
but you can change a non-artifact creature into an artifact creature, just not with Imagecrafter
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 1:11PM #7
rapyel
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2013
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Hello!

I've got another question!!

My girlfriend says that it is possible for her to use the "Riptide Laboratory" to block my creature and save her creature by bringing it back on her hand. Is that really the case - that would give her an unfair advantage, right?


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Peter 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 1:14PM #8
Enigma256
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that is possible
and unless your attacking creature has trample it will deal no damage
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 1:18PM #9
rapyel
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Thank you muy mucho!

I'm not quite sure if I should tell her, though - if you know what I mean ;D


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Petér 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 1:20PM #10
Enigma256
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I hope your couch is comfortable
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