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3 months ago ::
Feb 12, 2013 - 7:44PM
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Aug 14, 2012
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Do abilites like first strike or deathtouch apply when I use a fight card like Pit Fight  ?
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3 months ago ::
Feb 12, 2013 - 7:51PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 19, 2003
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Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect, and Wither are the only keyword abilities that apply to fighting.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 12, 2013 - 7:54PM
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I should of clarified, If I have a creature with first strike Disciple of the Old Ways  fighting a creature without first strike Grizzly Bears  does the one with first strike still hit first?
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3 months ago ::
Feb 12, 2013 - 7:55PM
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Jan 19, 2003
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I should of clarified, If I have a creature with first strike Disciple of the Old Ways fighting a creature without first strike Grizzly Bears does the one with first strike still hit first?
No. First strike does not apply to fighting.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 4:14AM
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Deathtouch, Lifelink, Infect, and Wither are the only keyword abilities that apply to fighting.
and Protection can apply too.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 6:52AM
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Jan 22, 2013
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Protection works - ie, creature has protection from Centaurs, I can't play prey upon  to target my centaur to wipe out that creature. But what about flying creatures? Straight up 4/4 centaur against 4/4 flyer - 1) could they be targeted to fight, and 2) confirm they both die
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 6:57AM
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Oct 29, 2007
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But what about flying creatures? Straight up 4/4 centaur against 4/4 flyer - 1) could they be targeted to fight?
yes, it just says target creature you control and target creature (for Pit Fight ) you don't control (for Prey Upon  )
and 2) confirm they both die
they would each deal 4 damage to the other and SBA's would destroy them both
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 6:58AM
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Jan 19, 2003
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But what about flying creatures? Straight up 4/4 centaur against 4/4 flyer - 1) could they be targeted to fight, and 2) confirm they both die
As 2goth4u pointed out, i forgot that there are keyworded prevention effects, so my list needs to add Protection and Absorb. But that adjustment doesn't add flying to the list.
Flying only affects the what blocks are legal in the Declare Blockers step. It does nothing to fighting. Each of the 4/4 creatures deals 4 damage to the other, and they both are destroyed.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 7:13AM
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Oct 15, 2009
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To summarize: the only Keywords that interact with Fight are things that change the amount (Protection, Absorb) or kind (Infect, Wither, Lifelink, Deathtouch) of damage being dealt. Keywords that affect the rules of Combat (First/Double Strike), Blocking (Flying, Reach) or anything else (anything else) don't interact with Fight at all.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 13, 2013 - 7:37AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 18, 2009
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To summarize: the only Keywords that interact with Fight are things that change the amount (Protection, Absorb) or kind (Infect, Wither, Lifelink, Deathtouch) of damage being dealt. Keywords that affect the rules of Combat (First/Double Strike), Blocking (Flying, Reach) or anything else (anything else) don't interact with Fight at all.
Rule of Thumb: would this ability affect Prodigal Pyromancer  's or Spikeshot Elder  's ability? Then it also affects "fight" damage. The difference here is, the other creature fights back.
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