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Switch to Forum Live View Confusion about "becomes/as/gains/is/are"
3 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2013 - 12:06PM #11
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Static abilities that generate a continuous effect are only active while they are on the battlefield (or the appropriate zone for things like Anger )

For continuous effects that generate a replacement effect like on Master Biomancer , they don't really give the ability directly rather they modify how the creature spell resolves so the effect is from an object on the stack* (the creature spell) and persists regardless of what occurs to Biomancer.

Prismatic Omen if worded with your alternate wording would cease giving the abilty to tap for mana.

However, if it had a static ability that generated a replacement effect that said "Lands you control enter the battlefield as every basic land type in addition to their other types", then those lands would retain that ability once Omen left, however, new lands would be unaffected.

Bloodlord's trigger actually mods the creature spell on the stack, but the change carries forward to the creature permanent on the field because of this rule.

400.7a Effects from spells, activated abilities, and triggered abilities that change the characteristics of a permanent spell on the stack continue to apply to the permanent that spell becomes.


Feb 11, 2013 -- 11:22AM, mcon1 wrote:

So Bloodlord of Vaasgoth has a static triggered ability but if he leaves the battlefield would the vampires you put out with bloodthirst 3 still have bloodthirst 3? (edit: actually now that I think about it, it is a triggered ability YES! so this wouldn't apply)


yes, see 400.7a above in combination with the fact that the effect from the trigger does not specify a duration.

* technically, the effect starts the moment the permanent enters the field so it could apply to creatures entering the field from other zones (eg. graveyard by Unburial Rites ), but the creature is still entering the field because of something on the stack and the effect comes from there

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2013 - 12:46PM #12
mcon1
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Great! thank you again for clearing that up.
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