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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 5:41PM
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Let's say my opponent casts soul ransom  on my rubblehulk  , and gains control of it (it resolves). Then, I cast gruul charm  , choosing to gain control of permanents I own. What happens to rubblehulk? I mean, it's still enchanted, right?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 5:48PM
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it's still enchanted
you get it back anyway
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 6:14PM
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I guess I don't get it. The enchantment wording seems so... continual. I mean, madcap skills  doesn't bestow its benefits just on resolution of the casting of the spell, right?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 6:19PM
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Gruul Charm  creates a more recent control change effect that overwrites the one from Soul Ransom  what do you think happens when 2 different players cast Mind Control  on a creature? in that case it will also go to the most recent control change effect and not randomly switch between the controllers of the Mind Controls
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 7:00PM
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The fact that Gruul Charm goes to the graveyard has no bearing on the "strength" of the control effect. Both Mind Control and Gruul Charm create a durational control effect (Mind control's is "As long as Mind control remains on the battlefield" and Gruul Charm's is "As long as the game hasn't ended"). They both have a duration, and when two conflicting effects of the same type apply to the same thing, the newest one always wins.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 7:17PM
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So Krarks gets control of the rubblehulk, but his opponent still has control of the Soul Ransom.
Therefore Krarks is the one that would activate the last SR ability. (Discard 2 cards, etc.) Well, Krarks and any other opponents if in a multiplayer.
Did I get that right?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 7:22PM
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So Krarks gets control of the rubblehulk, but his opponent still has control of the Soul Ransom.
Therefore Krarks is the one that would activate the last SR ability. (Discard 2 cards, etc.) Well, Krarks and any other opponents if in a multiplayer.
Did I get that right?
Gruul Charm or not, Soul Ransom is always controlled by the player who cast it (unless there's a Confiscate  involved), so the "any opponent" part means the opponents of Soul Ransom's controller, which never change with the Gruul Charm.
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