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4 months ago ::
Feb 06, 2013 - 4:22PM
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4 months ago ::
Feb 07, 2013 - 6:55AM
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Bump.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 9:41AM
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So, let's give this a second shot. Last night I took the deck to FNM and went 4-0, then split for first. Now, first off let me say I by no means think this deck will or even could be a consistently undefeated deck. For instance, the Jund Control deck I played in the second-to-last round had to mulligan to 4 both games, so that's definitely part of it. But even to get there I had to take down American Control, Boros Aggro, and a home brew BW Control, so the night wasn't a complete cake walk. An undefeated night is still an undefeated night, and as a result I want to really fine-tune this thing and get it to be as good as it can be, so hopefully this time around I get a response or two.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 6:45PM
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Looks similar to what I've been messing with, although due to my work schedule I haven't been able to test against any real competition. I run 4 Rakdos Cackler  in the one spot instead of the Denizen and no Artists as I don't have either. The Denizen looks interesting though, how is that working out for you? Also, I don't use Stonewright  for the same reason but I can see how it would be useful. I think 4 of on the Nighthawks is a good idea. I only own one each of the Keeper, Olivia, and Aristocrat. Which do you feel you get the most milage out of? I'm planning on getting a couple more keepers as they are way cheaper. I also have in my deck a Liliana of the Veil  just because I have it but on the odd occasion she shows up she gets work done.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2013 - 11:44PM
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3 months ago ::
Feb 18, 2013 - 12:38AM
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Bump.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 18, 2013 - 12:52AM
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Cut the guildgates. You have enough one drops so if you play one its not worth it.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 18, 2013 - 2:34AM
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Here is the list i would run for an aggressive B/R vampire deck. You could also take it towards a more controlling route if you want but i love me some aggro lol. Creatures-29 4x stromkirk noble  2x shadow alley denizen  4x vampire interloper  4x blood artist  2x bloodthrone vampire  4x vampire nighthawk  3x stromkirk captain  2x rakish heir  3x falkenrath aristocrat  1x bloodline keeper  Spells-8 4x searing spear  2x dreadbore  2x pillar of flame 
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3 months ago ::
Feb 18, 2013 - 2:45AM
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I advice taking out bloodine keeper because you're playing an agro deck. He's a little slower than what you want, he's great in a non-creature feature deck but he's a little to get out thing. More Aristocrats. Ultimate Price and Dreadbore. also, Deadweight is a FANTASTIC card right now, because of all the indestrucibles. Also, instead of flames, use Pillar. Too many people running undying.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 18, 2013 - 6:47AM
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Jan 27, 2013
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Cut the guildgates. You have enough one drops so if you play one its not worth it.
In a two color deck - especially one not looking to use any colorless  utility  lands  - guildgates aren't too hard to play around. The latest version of BR Zombies did it all the time. They're comparable to something like Augur of Bolas  in that their overall usefulness vastly outweighs the small chance they have to screw you over.
Here is the list i would run for an aggressive B/R vampire deck. You could also take it towards a more controlling route if you want but i love me some aggro lol.
Creatures-29
4x stromkirk noble
2x shadow alley denizen
4x vampire interloper
4x blood artist
2x bloodthrone vampire
4x vampire nighthawk
3x stromkirk captain
2x rakish heir
3x falkenrath aristocrat
1x bloodline keeper
Spells-8
4x searing spear
2x dreadbore
2x pillar of flame
I like the idea of adding Rakish Heir  as an additional "lord" effect, but I think a 4/1 split between Stromkirk Captain  and it is probably better, and something I might consider. The first strike and the immediate +1/+1 are generally going to be better. The only problem I see with this list are the 2-drops. Blood Artist  and Bloodthrone Vampire  are both cards I've tried at one point, and they really leave something to be desired when you're trying to curve out and put on as much early pressure as possible. Not to mention there are zero good sacrifice targets in this deck. Zombies has Gravecrawler  and Geralf's Messenger  for value, but there's nothing like that here.
I advice taking out bloodine keeper because you're playing an agro deck. He's a little slower than what you want, he's great in a non-creature feature deck but he's a little to get out thing. More Aristocrats. Ultimate Price and Dreadbore. also, Deadweight is a FANTASTIC card right now, because of all the indestrucibles. Also, instead of flames, use Pillar. Too many people running undying.
This is something I can get behind. As much as I've liked the occasional big finish with Bloodline Keeper  it has, for the most part, been disappointing. I definitely like that, with the Keeper, you really are going all-in on the Vampire tribal - even more than with Falkenrath Aristocrat  - and like I said before, the sacrifice thing is less relevant here than in Zombies. But still the Aristocrat is probably just the better card. She also allows you to curve out without fear of destruction-based sweepers. ( Terminus  still gets ya.) So yeah, I'll mess around with the 4-drop slot a little and see what I can come up with.
I've seen a lot of recent decks with Dead Weight  , and I get why. But the "indestructable" creatures you'll have to deal with most are Boros Reckoner  and opposing Falkenrath Aristocrat s, so I wonder if Tragic Slip  wouldn't just be better to have for this purpose? Pillar of Flame  , on the other hand, I kinda disagree about. Zombies is really falling off the map right now, and a majority of the green-based decks aren't running Strangleroot Geist  just because it has no interaction with Burning-Tree Emissary  . Doomed Traveler  , oddly enough, is the only one likely to see play for the foreseeable future, and I'm not sure he alone is worth running Pillar of Flame for.
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