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4 months ago ::
Feb 06, 2013 - 11:28AM
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Ok this is a deck that's been kicking around in my head for weeks, what do you think? It's unfinished because I'm still looking for things to sink the mana into. 4 x Llanowar Elves  4 x Priest of Titania  4 x Seeker of Skybreak  4 x Argothian Elder  4 x Elvish Guidance  4 x Harmonize  4 x Wolfbriar Elemental  4 x Strength of the Tajuru  4 x Wirewood Lodge  16 x Forest  Looking for suggestions for more spells to sink the mana into, Hurricane  for a bad/ish Example
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4 months ago ::
Feb 06, 2013 - 12:05PM
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Joraga Warcaller  and Rhys the Redeemed  ? It's a pretty solid formula for a lot of big elf tokens. Add an Overrun  or 2, or maybe Ezuri, Renegade Leader  , and you have a solid deck that goes nuclear in only a few turns.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 06, 2013 - 1:18PM
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That's just what I needed, thanks. I've wanted to use the warcaller for a While now but he's still about $4 each but this might be the deck to get them for. I was looking at X cost spells, would Wurmcalling  be any good? This is what I'm going with for now if I can find the warcallers. 4 x Llanowar Elves 4 x Priest of Titania 4 x Seeker of Skybreak 4 x Argothian Elder 4 x Wolfbriar Elemental 4 x Joraga Warcaller 2 x Rhys the Redeemed 4 x Strength of the Tajuru 4 x Harmonize 2 x Overrun 4 x Elvish Guidance 4 x Wirewood Lodge 16 x Forest I wanted to throw in some Wellwisher  s for life gain but can't tell if I'd need them or what to lose.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 06, 2013 - 3:40PM
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One of my favorite thing about Wellwishers is that they are a huge target that your opponent is going to waste time and resources dealing with. The life gain is nice, but don't expect to pull it off more than once or twice. Like I said, best thing about Wellwisher is that it'll take the pressure of other stuff you got going on. I think I'd swap the Seeker of Skybreak out for Elvish Archdruid  if you can get/already have them. Another land to consider playing with Argothian Elder is Deserted Temple  . Lodge untaps the Priests, Temple untaps whatever land the Elvish Guidance is on, then Argothian Elder untaps those two, rince, repeat. Honestly, there is a point that major mana production hits the realm of overkill. I think you could still run this deck WITHOUT the Elvish Guidances, maybe Elvish Promenade  in it's place. That would give you the ability to sub something else in for the Argothian Elders, like Heedless One  or the Wellwishers maybe. Of course, the same overkill statement could be made about token production as well. Just keep it simple, don't let it get bloated. There are SOOO many directions to take this deck.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 07, 2013 - 12:39PM
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The reason for Elder+Lodge+Guidance(on a forest) is that it's an Inf mana loop all on it's own(temple would just clutter it up)even with no other elves out, in which case the preist is the Overkill/Insurance. I like the Seekers cuz they let me untap and reuse other things(Rhys, Priest, Wellwisher) but I could cut them and still run a Priest Through 2 Lodges. I have a full set of Archdriuds but thought that might be too much mana. I really just need the Wellwisher as a life boost incase of trouble so 1 use would be fine, also like you I like that they draw removals to them. I may drop the seeker and/or Rhys(as I migh have trouble finding him) for 2-3 each of Wellwisher & Heedless One . If you're having trouble seeing how I use The Loop it's like this:1x Elder, Lodge, & Guidance in play, tap Guidance for 2 Mana(1 from tapping land+ 1 from Guidance), 1 mana+tap lodge to untap Elder(or other elf to get started), Tap elder to untap them, leaving you 1 green, repeat till you have all the mana you need. Which is why it's one of my favorite loops. I used to use Priest of Titania + Staff of Domination  , which is easier to pull off than 3 cards but it was too dependant on having a certain number of elves out. This way if I have to I can block with all but the Elder till I get it set up then play a massively kicked Elemental(or even add the Strentgh to it if I feel REALLY mean). This deck Doesn't really have any Answers for things, but I'm hoping its fast enough not to need it(which is why I'm considering the Wellwishers). All in All I think this is as streamlined as I can get it with out taking out key cards I'd need or adding stuff I don't REALLY need. but you guys might have suggestions that I missed.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 07, 2013 - 2:10PM
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4 months ago ::
Feb 07, 2013 - 4:22PM
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Yeah, I recognize the loop, I guess I said what I said cause it just doesn't seem neccesary. But, you did start the thread asking what you can use all that mana for, so I shouldn't try to talk you out of it. I've gotten on ppl's cases before for trying to change ppl's mind about stuff like that before, and I really don't want to be a hypocrite. However, if you're gonna take the elf tokens (Rhys) out of it, Warcaller just lost a bunch of it's oomph. You're down to depending on those 4 Wolfbriars for your offense. A well-timed Pyroclasm  (before you get to drop the Strength of the Tajuru) can wipe you out. Something to think about.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 07, 2013 - 8:03PM
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There is no friendlier creature to an elf deck than a Seedborn Muse  the untap on opponents turn for more elf tapping shenanigans
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4 months ago ::
Feb 08, 2013 - 1:48PM
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Omnath and Seedborn are cool but I feel the would just be in the way here. Yeah, I recognize the loop, I guess I said what I said cause it just doesn't seem neccesary. But, you did start the thread asking what you can use all that mana for, so I shouldn't try to talk you out of it. I've gotten on ppl's cases before for trying to change ppl's mind about stuff like that before, and I really don't want to be a hypocrite.
However, if you're gonna take the elf tokens (Rhys) out of it, Warcaller just lost a bunch of it's oomph. You're down to depending on those 4 Wolfbriars for your offense. A well-timed Pyroclasm (before you get to drop the Strength of the Tajuru) can wipe you out. Something to think about.
Sorry if it sounded like you were pissing me off here, It's just when you suggested Desert Tample it seemed unneccesary and clunky to add so I wasn't sure if you saw how it works(hince the explaination). I didn't feel you were getting on my case and I always apperciate your advice. As far as the loop goes, yes it is unneccesary but as I already have my Taunting Elf deck(which I'm still tweaking) as my main one and it works pretty good I really just wanted a deck that cranks out Insane amounts of mana and then does something Awesomly evil. It's mainly just for fun or if someone complains about getting their face smashed in by a Taunting Elf. I WANT to leave the Rhys' in but as the Local shops supply on things like that is spotty I may have to wait on him, and I thought extra Wishers and/or heedless was a good sub for it.
I'll post my newest deck list later for review.
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