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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 4:08AM #1
alan2here
Date Joined: May 17, 2012
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edit: updated

Refine the Land (C)
Sorcery
Target tapped lands controller may untap that land, activate any of that lands abilities then pay .
If they did not, destroy that land. If was spent on ~, put a Forest token into play under that players control.


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Refine the Land (A)
Sorcery
Target untapped land's controller sacrifices it unless he or she pays .
If land was sacrificed and was spent on ~, put a Forest token into play under that players control.

Refine the Land (B)
Sorcery
Target tapped lands controller may untap that land, activate any of that lands abilities then pay .
If they did not, destroy that land. If was spent on ~, put a Forest token into play under that players control.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 4:55AM #2
Apollo_8089
Date Joined: May 8, 2011
Posts: 304
You can shorten the wording a lot, and still keep the effect the same (unless I'm missing something).

"Target untapped land's controller sacrifices it unless he or she pays . If [rest of clause]" should be functionally identical and neater.

Although can I suggest you just make it tutor a basic land for target land's controller? Forest tokens just seem too abusable with Doubling Season and Parallel Lives
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 6:16AM #3
alan2here
Date Joined: May 17, 2012
Posts: 829
Thanks.

A is now what you suggest, B is more along the lines of what I was originally thinking, improved a little.

I'm not sure if I mind the synergy with those cards.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 10:07AM #4
TPmanW
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2010
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I'm pretty sure that having this target only untapped lands makes it countrerable just by tapping that land, since it no longer meets the criteria of being an "untapped land" and is thus an illegal target.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 11:03AM #5
Dr_Demento
Date Joined: Jun 28, 2008
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It this supposed to be R/G non-mana producing land hate (with red just killing it and green helpfully giving yu a forest to replace it), because it costs too much for that. In the older formats, why not just run Stone Rain (or Sink Hole or any of dozens of non-basic land hate options)? In the newer formats, what land doesn't produce mana?
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 4:55AM #6
alan2here
Date Joined: May 17, 2012
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Thanks all, I've updated accordingly with (C).

Note that you can use this on your own lands too like Maze of the Ith , choosing not to destroy and paying instead.

I can't believe Sinkhole is so broken and legal at the same time.
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