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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 2:45AM
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im not sure i understand illusionist's bracers  so if a creature says  untap target creature it could untap two creatures or would it not work because the ability has a cost. im having trouble finding a use for it
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 2:53AM
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Mar 12, 2011
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Only activated abilities can be activated. All activated abilities have the template [cost]:[effect], look for the colon, it's either in the card's text or in the rules for the keyword ability. Anything else is not an activated ability and therefore cannot be copied with the Bracers. Note, that everything before the colon is the cost. When you activate an ability of the equipped creature, that is not a mana ability, you get another activation of it for free. Example: Your Tidewater Minion  wears the Bracers. You activate it to untap a creature and pay the cost of tapping it. This triggers the Bracers which, ones the trigger resolves, creates another instance of "untap target permanent" on the stack above the original activation, for which you can choose a new target as per the trigger's instruction.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:00AM
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so with your example you could untap all of your permanent infinately
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:00AM
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If it were on Prodigal Pyromancer  , his 1 damage ping ability would get copied and you could deal 2 damage - both to the same target or 1 to two different targets. However, if it were on Llanowar Elves  , it would not copy the ability because adding  is a mana ability.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:02AM
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so with your example you could untap all of your permanent infinately
Yes. Nice combo!
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:04AM
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so with your example you could untap all of your permanent infinately
No, only the original activation counts, as only that instance was activated. The Bracer's copies weren't activated and thus won't trigger it again.
Edit: Untapping the Minion will allow you to activate its ability again, triggering the Bracers again.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:06AM
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It would work. "Untap Target Permanent" goes on the stack twice. One of those could target whatever and the other could target the Minion, which would then untap and could be tapped again, which would put two more instance of the ability on the stack until infinity and beyond.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:08AM
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thats what i was thinking.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:12AM
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so would the bracers double fire breathing
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4 months ago ::
Feb 05, 2013 - 3:13AM
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Jun 21, 2006
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Yes. You'd get +2/+0 for every  . (+1/+0 twice, actually) EDIT: The original Firebreathing  aura would not work though, because the ability is from the enchantment, not from the creature.
«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»
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