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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 11:38AM #11
Perpetual
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2011
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 11:03AM, purplebackpack89 wrote:

Jace, Memory Adept in a mill deck.  Can just read "At the beginning of your upkeep, target player mills ten"




One of his criteria was variety of uses/deck builds. JMA is great for mill, but other Jaces are more flexible.

Add me to the growing list that just doesn't get Vraska being that high.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 12:16PM #12
Disturbed185
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2006
Posts: 347
Ajani, Caller of the Pride fits into more than just a 1v1 commander deck...albeit that's probably where he's strongest. He fits into token and Voltron decks.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 1:15PM #13
TyGuy42
Date Joined: Oct 20, 2010
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Yes - absolutely, decks where a specific Planewalker fits into the strategy perfectly (Jace, Memeroy Adept for Mill, Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas in Artifacts) would be stronger - I was going for a broader base.

I have heard a lot of people not understand my inclusion of Vraska, an I jut don't get the hate she seem to be getting.  Her minus ability is a weaker, but almost as useful as Karn's, she comes down earlier, she protects herself, and her Ultimate can win the game by herself - something that isn't common amoung Planeswalkers.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 1:31PM #14
RxPhantom
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2011
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 1:15PM, TyGuy42 wrote:

Yes - absolutely, decks where a specific Planewalker fits into the strategy perfectly (Jace, Memeroy Adept for Mill, Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas in Artifacts) would be stronger - I was going for a broader base.

I have heard a lot of people not understand my inclusion of Vraska, an I jut don't get the hate she seem to be getting.  Her minus ability is a weaker, but almost as useful as Karn's, she comes down earlier, she protects herself, and her Ultimate can win the game by herself - something that isn't common amoung Planeswalkers.



Vraska's ultimate isn't that great in EDH.  By the time it goes off, three 1/1s shouldn't be too tough to deal with.  She's not bad, there are just better walkers.  I think you get more mileage out of Garruk Relentless .  I also think Elspeth Tirel is often unfairly overshadowed by her first incarnation.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 8:01PM #15
IamjustnotCreative
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2012
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Sarkhan the Mad has won me several games, but it only works based on Dragon Decks. The Sac removal is pretty good at getting rid of generals like Uril, the Miststalker , but in general it's not a very removal, but it's versatile 'cause you can target yourself for some fun shenanigans. 

But then again, in most decks I'd take Sorin Markov over Sarkhan the Mad  any day. 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 9:29PM #16
Mkmkmk
Date Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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Sarkhan the Mad targets a creature. It can't get rid of Uril, creatures with shroud, or creatures that aren't yours with hexproof on its own.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 10:51PM #17
Perpetual
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2011
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 1:15PM, TyGuy42 wrote:

I have heard a lot of people not understand my inclusion of Vraska, an I jut don't get the hate she seem to be getting.  Her minus ability is a weaker, but almost as useful as Karn's, she comes down earlier, she protects herself, and her Ultimate can win the game by herself - something that isn't common amoung Planeswalkers.




For me, it's like this:
+1 ability: While she is protecting herself, she's not doing anything for me or against my opponents. On those turns she's basically a wasted card slot. Plus her protection doesn't extend to direct damage, so a Staff of Nin or Chandra, the Firebrand effectively keep her from growing loyalty counters, while any kind of real damage spell will eat her alive.
-3 ability: Love it. Would love it more at -2. Speaking of which, a good -2 is on the aforementioned Chandra, the Firebrand .
-7 ability: I get it. It is a win con. But a really bad one. I'd rather have the ultimates on at least half the other planeswalkers. And specifically for -7, I'd rather have Domri Rade make my regular creatures into disgustingly powerful win cons.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 9:06AM #18
malpheas
Date Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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I'd like to put up another vote for Domri.  He's solid.  Not gamebreaking, but he is relevant.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 07, 2013 - 10:38PM #19
darklight_tr
Date Joined: Nov 30, 2011
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Another vote for Domri Rade .  In my creature-heavy Animar, Soul of Elements deck he is great.
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