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4 months ago :: Feb 03, 2013 - 8:25PM #11
Sleeky Date Joined: Oct 3, 2012 Posts: 157	The deck seems much better as an aggro (pseudo aggro-control) deck with staying power than trying to branch it into the mid-range area. Ex 1 is stronger against things such as pillar (which is common in my meta) and rancor is just a very strong card in green when running this many one and two drops. Biomancer would be much stronger when it wasn't your top end and there was more counter production through any number of means on a single source. Bioshift in this deck basically moves one counter 90% of the time which really isn't worth a card (let alone two include biomancer itself for the settup). So for 2 cards and 5 mana you have a 2/4 or whatever it is with things coming into play with 2 plus 1 counters after that. You're better off playing rancor beforehand because you get the same power increase, with less cards, and it has redundancy and safe-guard because you get the rancor back in most situations if a creature dies. Mathematically this version is just strictly better so you're better off just playing vorapede in the spot anyways because you get the nice synergy with the guildmage, and undying with it to safeguard removal to an extent. I'll post what I'm planning on running related to this minus relatively same mana base. 4x(1) - Cloudfin Raptor 4x(1) - Young Wolf 4x(2) - Strangleroot Geist 4x(2) - Zameck Guildmage 3x(3) - Elusive Krasis 2x(5) - Vorapede ______________________________________ 21: 8(1), 8(2), 3(3), 2(5) 3x(1) - Ranger's Guile 4x(1) - Rancor 2x(1) - Rapid Hybridization 3x(2) - Simic Charm 4x(2) - Spell Rupture
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4 months ago :: Feb 03, 2013 - 8:27PM #12
Sleeky Date Joined: Oct 3, 2012 Posts: 157	PS, vorapede w/rancor is an answer to thragtusk. So is dungeon geists in SB.
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4 months ago :: Feb 03, 2013 - 8:59PM #13
00Brak Date Joined: Dec 9, 2012 Posts: 75	I like where your going with it a lot more. Let me know how it goes, I think an undying abusing deck sounds pretty fun lol.
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4 months ago :: Feb 03, 2013 - 9:41PM #14
Sleeky Date Joined: Oct 3, 2012 Posts: 157	Feb 3, 2013 -- 8:59PM, 00Brak wrote: I like where your going with it a lot more. Let me know how it goes, I think an undying abusing deck sounds pretty fun lol. Planning on running that or the tempo BUG listing next week. Just want to see how each playtests a bit more for the meta.
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4 months ago :: Feb 03, 2013 - 9:49PM #15
Aquacode Date Joined: Feb 2, 2013 Posts: 24	Have you considered maybe finding a spot for Hunger of the Howlpack ?
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4 months ago :: Feb 04, 2013 - 10:24AM #16
HenshinWizard Date Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 24	Feb 3, 2013 -- 8:59PM, 00Brak wrote: I like where your going with it a lot more. Let me know how it goes, I think an undying abusing deck sounds pretty fun lol. I had a friend of mine take a look at it in school today and here is what he gave me. (I am not doing the c cause of time.) Land:23 Forestx5 Islandx10 Hinterland Harborx4 Breeding Poolx4 Creatures: 24 Stranglerootx4 Cloudfin Raptorx4 Master Biomancerx3 Zameck Guildmagex4 Young Wolfx3 Primordial Hydra or Vorapedex3 Elusive Krasisx3 Spells:13 Rapid Hybridizationx3 (he said combo with an undying.) Bioshiftx3 Spell Rupturex3 Simic Charmx4 I have yet to playtest this yet. However my friend goes to the same place I do for FNM, and the deck should be nice for the game there. Sideboard, I plan on putting in Essence Scatter and when the time comes swapping it for Rapid Hybridization. So I have three cards so far, 12 more for the sideboard. Also Aquacode, Hunger of the Howlpack is a nice idea, but ealier on Sleeky suggested Burst of Strength, which is simialr to Howlpack, so please see the answer I gave on that for the answer to Howlpack. However, thanks for the input.
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4 months ago :: Feb 04, 2013 - 10:50AM #17
nopemx6 Date Joined: Apr 4, 2012 Posts: 975	Feb 4, 2013 -- 10:24AM, HenshinWizard wrote: Feb 3, 2013 -- 8:59PM, 00Brak wrote: Land:23 Forestx5 Islandx10 Hinterland Harborx4 Breeding Poolx4 Creatures: 24 Stranglerootx4 Cloudfin Raptorx4 Master Biomancerx3 Zameck Guildmagex4 Young Wolfx3 Primordial Hydra or Vorapedex3 Elusive Krasisx3 Spells:13 Rapid Hybridizationx3 (he said combo with an undying.) Bioshiftx3 Spell Rupturex3 Simic Charmx4 Are you sure you don't have the Island and Forest counts backwards? Strangleroot Geist and Vorapede want the mana base to be a bit greener.
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4 months ago :: Feb 04, 2013 - 3:01PM #18
HenshinWizard Date Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 24	Feb 4, 2013 -- 10:50AM, nopemx6 wrote: Feb 4, 2013 -- 10:24AM, HenshinWizard wrote: Feb 3, 2013 -- 8:59PM, 00Brak wrote: Land:23 Forestx5 Islandx10 Hinterland Harborx4 Breeding Poolx4 Creatures: 24 Stranglerootx4 Cloudfin Raptorx4 Master Biomancerx3 Zameck Guildmagex4 Young Wolfx3 Primordial Hydra or Vorapedex3 Elusive Krasisx3 Spells:13 Rapid Hybridizationx3 (he said combo with an undying.) Bioshiftx3 Spell Rupturex3 Simic Charmx4 Are you sure you don't have the Island and Forest counts backwards? Strangleroot Geist and Vorapede want the mana base to be a bit greener. Yeah I did. It was actually suppose to be 9xForest and 6xIsland. Like I said, I was in a rush. Thanks for pointing that out.
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4 months ago :: Feb 04, 2013 - 7:51PM #19
waterbury95 Date Joined: Feb 2, 2010 Posts: 318	Idk about anyone else, but I'm a pretty big fan of Simic Manipulator . A lot of people will probably find a better 3 drop then him, but he seems like a good creature to throw into your deck or sideboard right now. Especially when your running cards like Zameck Guildmage and Master Biomancer in your deck.
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4 months ago :: Feb 04, 2013 - 9:02PM #20
Sleeky Date Joined: Oct 3, 2012 Posts: 157	Feb 4, 2013 -- 7:51PM, waterbury95 wrote: Idk about anyone else, but I'm a pretty big fan of Simic Manipulator . A lot of people will probably find a better 3 drop then him, but he seems like a good creature to throw into your deck or sideboard right now. Especially when your running cards like Zameck Guildmage and Master Biomancer in your deck. Yeah, I want to mess with manipulator. I actually opened Simic Manipulator and Agoraphobia when I played simic both times in prerelease. That is a FUN combo. I want to make a deck around that one week as well. Throw in corpsejack and biomancer and you have a bit of a brew going. Hybridization and actually (for sure this time) burst of strength AND howlpack would probably be in the deck. And lots of counter/protection. Who wants to tap down a tusk with dungeon geists for 4 mana when you can just steal it yourself for 3
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