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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 9:39AM #61
Barinellos
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:36AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:34AM, Barinellos wrote:

Feb 15, 2013 -- 7:55AM, Shamsiel wrote:

...Depends. While werewolves are described as animalistically ferocious, it's implied they are capable of some level of coognition. That example I gave specialised in killing a particular target; if she were mindless, she'd kill without discrimination.




Well yes, but let us not forget that there are plenty of mono-red werewolves out there.




Well, yes, but they're still more inclined to than .




I would debate that as bending the frame to fit the picture as opposed to the picture fitting the frame. It might fit the frame loosely, but it rattles around without any issue.

Aside from that, the Berserker Predator tribe has no honor and actively hunts the OTHER predators. Which isn't about propogation of species or protection, but because they hate the others from a totally selfish viewpoint. It's vindictiveness on their end... and that is really hard to justify as being green in any portion.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 9:41AM #62
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:39AM, Jivanmukta wrote:

I really do think the in is more based on survival than selfishness, but bringing up a wedge at all is stupid on my part. (GIVE US A BLOODY WEDGE BLOCK).

And Shamsiel, being more green than black is irrelevant to that discussion.... 




Depends how you interpret survival instincts, I guess. is the colour most paranoid about it's own life, but is frequently flavoured as the colour of survival and the need to remain alive.

And it's relevant because / is not necessary to be a bloody evil murder obsessed bastard.


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 9:43AM #63
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:41AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:39AM, Jivanmukta wrote:

I really do think the in is more based on survival than selfishness, but bringing up a wedge at all is stupid on my part. (GIVE US A BLOODY WEDGE BLOCK).

And Shamsiel, being more green than black is irrelevant to that discussion.... 




Depends how you interpret survival instincts, I guess. is the colour most paranoid about it's own life, but is frequently flavoured as the colour of survival and the need to remain alive.




But tri-colors are watered down and warped. The main issue is that black is so horribly represented in mtg. In addition, Genes are selfish yet green. But genetics as a whole list of issues regarding mtg color ideals.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 9:44AM #64
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 9:41AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Depends how you interpret survival instincts, I guess. is the colour most paranoid about it's own life, but is frequently flavoured as the colour of survival and the need to remain alive.

And it's relevant because / is not necessary to be a bloody evil murder obsessed bastard.




Eh, the berserkers aren't out to survive though. They're there to HUNT the other tribe purely out of spite.
It's like having a party that you've worked very hard to put together and then some jerkface crashes it, kills your guests and then attempts to murder you as well.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 2:33PM #65
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 5:57AM, Barinellos wrote:

Feb 14, 2013 -- 6:08PM, EyeHunter wrote:

Predator: G, possibly Blue as it hides, deceives and learns. The scariest thing about it to me was the way it copied and used human languages.
Predator vs. Batman 2 (I highly recommend this): The main predator is B/G, The others are G/W. The first Predator batman fought was the same as in the first movie.
Predators: Green with some Blue and black.



It should be noted that there are at least two different tribes/sub-races of Predator. One of which could be justified as G/?, but the other are pretty deeply R/B. Their obsession goes beyond the desire to hunt, they want to revel in the kill.

Classic Fantastic four:
She-hulk: White



You forgot the bit with red in her. She's enormously impulsive and a huge part of her character is tied up in the freedom being she-hulk grants her. (I mean, that composed about 2/3rds or her solo series.) R/W I could see... in a weird sort of way.


I forgot the thing about two types of Predators in Predators. I don't feel that was well developed, and it undoes some of the non-movie lore.

She-hulk is overwelming white. She's a lawyer. She always puts others over her own freedom or passions. (We all ignore Chuck Dixon). The only one of her solo series I've followed is the recent Peter David one. Most of her Red/rebel actions were based on the authority (Iron Man) not matching her own beliefs. Like the Rebels in Masques, she's still white. During her fantastic Four days, she was even more clearly white.

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May 8, 2013 -- 4:33PM, Yxoque wrote:

Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.


oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 8:28PM #66
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 2:33PM, EyeHunter wrote:

She-hulk is overwelming white. She's a lawyer. She always puts others over her own freedom or passions. (We all ignore Chuck Dixon). The only one of her solo series I've followed is the recent Peter David one. Most of her Red/rebel actions were based on the authority (Iron Man) not matching her own beliefs. Like the Rebels in Masques, she's still white. During her fantastic Four days, she was even more clearly white.




Then you missed the best part of that solo series. The bit where she had to deal without the freedom being She-Hulk allowed and having to be regular Jennifer Walters, super-lawyer.
She-Hulk definitely follows her passions, to the point of excess and she also doesn't embody white's love of structure. She defends the laws for the good of the people those laws are meant to protect.... but guess how often she personally flaunts those laws?
A LOT.
That's why they kicked her out of the Avengers mansion. Of course, there was also the She-Hulks run with Lyra and Jen, it was pretty good. Built on her impulsive fun loving side too. Say what you will, but impulse is definitely red. She's all about emotion, not discipline. And really, she always has been. Of course, that goes into the principle of every Hulk character. They are extremely emotional beings, not ones of order, but of passion.

If you argue that impulse and passion aren't red, then I will argue that defense of the innocent isn't white.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 3:44AM #67
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She always seemed more to me.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 11:15AM #68
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Feb 15, 2013 -- 7:46AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Their obsession goes beyond the desire to hunt, they want to revel in the kill.





So do innistradi werewolves, such as Tovolar and that other pack leader that kspecialises in killing children.




Red's actually more sadistic than black. (Conversely, blue's more sociopathic than black. But blue has the least sadism, and red arguably has the least sociopathy.)

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 11:35AM #69
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Feb 16, 2013 -- 11:15AM, bay_falconer wrote:

Feb 15, 2013 -- 7:46AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Their obsession goes beyond the desire to hunt, they want to revel in the kill.





So do innistradi werewolves, such as Tovolar and that other pack leader that kspecialises in killing children.




Red's actually more sadistic than black. (Conversely, blue's more sociopathic than black. But blue has the least sadism, and red arguably has the least sociopathy.)




If you mean red is more likely to gain emotional gratification from sadistic actions then you might be right. As for which is more liekly to be a sadist I'd still say black.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2013 - 11:41AM #70
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All colours aside from can be horribly sadistic. In fact, all four forms of sadism are colour coded:

is Tyrannical Sadism, sadism that is motivated by power hunger

is Explosive Sadism, sadism motivated by emotional stress

is Spinless Sadism, sadism that is basically an extension of instinctual defense responses

is Enforcing Sadism, sadism derived from the desire to harm people who you perceive as morally repulsive.

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