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5 months ago  ::  Feb 12, 2013 - 8:20AM #21
ajb1238
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
Posts: 465
After more testing, Experiment One does seem somewhat mediocre for us, even with Gore-House Chainwalker in the mix.  Boros Elite is a possible alternative I suppose, but I can see that being worse in a number of matchups.  Namely anything with Izzet Staticasters.  I'm not sure which one drop I prefer yet.  Most likely Experiment One is just necessary, I think.  We may just want to play 1-2 more 1 drops anyway.  I'm still working through Hamlet Captain vs Gore-House Chainwalker, the differences seem pretty subtle though so I'm not sure which I prefer yet.

The deck is suprisingly more resilent than I thought it would be.  Oh, and Physics Volcanic Strength is savage tech, thanks for that one.  Practically every deck I've played against has Stomping Ground or Sacred Foundry and that card just closes out games.

Boros Reckoner makes combat so strange.  Every turn that thing comes out I feel like I'm asking myself "How do I NOT get blown out here?"  I'm not sure we have a definite solution for that card, but so far it hasn't been back-breaking.  Sometimes you power through with Frontline Medic, other times its Volcanic Strength.  I guess everyone is just trying to figure out that card right now.

I'm done rambling.  I like the deck a lot, and Physics' input has cleaned it up quite a bit.  Hopefully we can smooth out the remaining issues and make this thing a monster.  
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2013 - 9:28PM #22
illusionz
Date Joined: Jan 16, 2012
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I agree with you that Reckoner makes combat very funky.

some options are to ignore it and force damage through, and hopefully your winning the damage race at this point.

Searing Spear it and eat the 3 damage.
 
Also, you can Gruul Charm to make your guys unblockable, which lets you ignore it while you get some damage through.

but yeah Reckoner is a card you definitly have to play around. 
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 15, 2013 - 6:01AM #23
ajb1238
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
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Reckoner is a rattlesnake for aggro decks for sure.  I have a feeling someone is going to break the Domri Rade and Reckoner deck this weekend.  For our purposes, Searing Spear should probably be the absolute last resort to deal with Reckoner.  It just ends up being a 2 for 1 for them against you too often.  I've thought about Nightbird's Clutches as a possibility.  It's not great, and exceptionally cute, but could be enough to get there.  And as long as we're on the cute fast-track,  Avacynian Priest  could be an extremely niche solution as well.  Some number of maindeck Volcanic Strength  is probably the right direction though, I think.  I've been experimenting with Tomoharu Saito's latest R/G list, and the card does seem fine as a maindeck option.  He's even got redudancy on Strength with maindeck Madcap Skills as well.  I'm not sure I'm willing to ride that far onto the crazy train just yet, but he knows a lot more about deckbuilding than I do so who knows?

I'm still not sure how I feel about the Boros Elite vs Experiment One debate.  I've seen a few lists running both as full sets for 12 total one drops which seems bad to me.  Thragtusk decks just present too many headaches at that point.  Gore-House Chainwalker/Hamlet Captain are the worst cards in this deck though, so maybe I'm wrong there.  I'd be more inclined to cut them for some maindeck Volcanic Strength.

It seems like people are torn between the traditional 23 land,  Avacyn's Pilgrim , Huntmaster of the Fells , and  Restoration Angel midrangey version of Humans and this newer version of deck.  I'm obviously partial to this version, but it seems like both decks have pros/cons.  But I'm smitten with Burning-Tree Emissary .  A Frogmite that fixes mana?  Yes please.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2013 - 3:17AM #24
ajb1238
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
Posts: 465
Brad Nelson has been 4-0ing a lot of daily events on modo this week with Naya Humans.   For reference, his most recent list (FFfreak):

www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlin...

There's some cool new technology to discuss here.  He's up to 12 one drops, which probably makes sense.  I initially didn't like going so "all in" because of Thragtusk decks, but the truth is there's a good chance without them you lose to a resolved tusk anyway.  He's also got Flinthoof Boar maindecked, which now looks obvious to me.  It turns on Experiment One, and is easy on the mana anyway.  Giant Growth seems awkward, but is probably a nod to the other aggressive decks.  It is clearly more flexible defensively than Ghor-Clan Rampager .  In testing I was finding Rampager to be pretty underwhelming anyway.

The sideboard looks fairly close to stock.  Fiend Hunters for Reckoners may be better than Volcanic Strength now, which I've recently been finding to be less reliable.  They don't always have a mountain, and UWR is a real thing again as is Azorius Charm .  Pacifism over Bonds of Faith is curious.  Perhaps he was finding Ash Zealot  to be problematic as well as Reckoner.

Anyway, something to discuss.  I still think this is probably one of the strongest decks out there right now.
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