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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 1:20PM
#11
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2011
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 1:28PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2012
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I'm being nitpicked to death today. But yes, thank you for the correction -- I had overlooked that it was a modern deck.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 2:34PM
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Date Joined:
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note: he could use Ghost Quarter  in response to the Valakut triggers after Scapeshift resolves to destroy a mountain and thereby make the if clauses false on resolution (though that assumes you don't have any more mountains in your library - if you do though, Ghost Quarter would let you put another mountain on to replace the destroyed one and trigger Valakut again, actually making it worse for him) though some other destroy effect could thwart the triggers if he is able to bring the number of mountains down to five or less
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4 months ago ::
Feb 02, 2013 - 11:39AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 12, 2007
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Things that enter the battlefield at the same time as a resolution of another thing all see each other. Things that change the type of things see them as whatever new type they are. You could do it with a prismatic omen  , 4 valakuts, and 2 mountains. You need a total of 6 land since it says "other land" though the valakuts will see each other as mountains. At max minimum (all 4 valakuts, earliest possible activation) you would see 5 other mountains from four valakuts for 20 triggers or 60 damage. It is normal to run land accelleration in early turns and to be aiming for a 4th or 5th turn scapeshift. This is not particularly fast for a combo deck being more or less average speed for a combo deck. (vintage painter/grindstone can mill for 60 on the first turn with a perfect draw, while storm aims for turn 2 or 3)
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4 months ago ::
Feb 02, 2013 - 2:46PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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each of the six "mountains" (2x Mountain + 4x Valakut) enters simultaneously and all 4 Valukuts will trigger for each mountain entering a total of 24 triggers (not 20)
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Goth/Industrial/EBM/Indie/Alternative/80's-Wave DJDJ VortexDCI Certified Rules Advisor from July 14, 2009 to July 14, 2012 DCI #5209514320 Wit found in Rules Q&ARPJesus: "Man, screw the rules, I'll play a game of 2HG Archenemy Planechase Emperor EDH draft yet. Once I figure out the rules for it..." Chaikov: "Of course, casual Magic may be played any way your Pokemon group agrees on..." and "It's not logic. It's Magic!" GainsBanding: "I only play online. The Magic Online shuffler is AWESOME!" Ikegami: "one might think [adult cats] would make excellent tokens. The issue, though, is that they are very hard to exile. They return to the battlefield more often than an undying creature." Astarael7: "Does 121.1 imply that players are supposed to wear their poison counters?" Bimmerbot: "If you move the wrong way and [the poison counters] fall, it's a game rule violation" Helluminatus: "Just remember, if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but the oracle text says creature - Bunny , then by god, it's a bunny." MadCow21: "Who are you and what have you done with the real Chaikov?" My Wife's Makeup Artist Page <-- cool stuff - check it out
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4 months ago ::
Feb 03, 2013 - 8:20AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 21, 2006
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Valakut says "Whenever a Mountain enters the battlefield under your control, if you control at least five other Mountains..."
Each mountain only sees four other mountains (it doesn't count itself, because itself is not an other mountain). The scenario as I see described (2 Valakuts + 5 mountains) results in no Valakut triggers.
Agkh! Foiled again by that «five OTHER Mountains»! Guess I should actually start reading the f... card!
«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»
Sounds familiar?
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