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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 4:47PM #51
falclon
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 4:44PM, Neofirefly wrote:

this whole argument just goes around in circles




Suppose so) I started this thread mostly because of my irritation about AS. I think that the others have their pet peeves as well.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 4:54PM #52
thedevilwuster
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 4:39PM, falclon wrote:

I think that GM can do nothing in first 3 turns that even resembles standart situation - berserker-insigator/piledriver-chief.





falcion,
Given the proper draw and your decisions, I can do 16 damage while only loosing 2 life by turn 4 only using 2 different cards.

Edit: Turn 3, twelve damage and one life loss.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:02PM #53
falclon
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 4:54PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Jan 31, 2013 -- 4:39PM, falclon wrote:

I think that GM can do nothing in first 3 turns that even resembles standart situation - berserker-insigator/piledriver-chief.





falcion,
Given the proper draw and your decisions, I can do 16 damage while only loosing 2 life by turn 4 only using 2 different cards.

Edit: Turn 3, twelve damage and one life loss.




Ok, I was to hasty. It's 5 am here and I'm little sleepy. But - 2 reanimates and 2 devils is the rare situation compared to standart (as I said in the mentioned post) GG situation. As I recall there was the whole thread dedicated to maximum damage at the begginig of the game. But all those situations were theoretical. Reanimate + Avatar of Slaughter? Why not?

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:06PM #54
Khronikos
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Well, if it is Auto-Pilot you still need to use your mind to balance a PI deck and that is where the skill comes in.

Auto-Pilot to me is something like CW as you really don't have to worry about a whole hell of a lot in 2HG unless your deck is beyond awful. Sure, you have to make decisions but big whoop when all of those decisions are easy peasy for the most part if you have a competent partner.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:07PM #55
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I've actually been able to pull of that combo plenty of times. Heck I'll even tutor my Reanimate if the guy keeps sacing the Devil.

Just saying.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:14PM #56
falclon
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 5:07PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

I've actually been able to pull of that combo plenty of times. Heck I'll even tutor my Reanimate if the guy keeps sacing the Devil.

Just saying.




I agree, but even so - it is the one trick with two cards, not the main deck theme.

Just answering)

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:30PM #57
Neofirefly
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also i think people are confusing autopilot with having few instants.  Where sure you average Garruck deck usually has no choices of things he can do on the opponents turn this imo makes his sorcery speed choices doubly important.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:56PM #58
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Not really Neo.  His sorcery choices are; Should I ramp now? What creature do I fight with against? Do I need a bunch of 2/2 wolves? Should I gain life (if you run bountiful LOL)?  None of those questions are hard to answer.
Chancellor of the Spires is one of the worst cards in the deck. With only two of them, you are almost never going to get one in your starting hand. If you do get it in your starting hand, it will just sit there. If you get to cast it, it will get burned immediately.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 7:05PM #59
Kangermu
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Nobody is saying that PI requires some masterful grasp of the intricacies of Magic to play. They are saying that GG requires even less knowledge. Pretty much the only way to lose against 2/3 of the deck in this game while playing as GG is to hold back cards instead of just zerging.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 7:19PM #60
Neofirefly
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but really can make that argument about any deck.  Here is a simple if/then autopilot guide to black..

Is the other guys dude big enough to block my dude or a threat to kill me? then i should murder him.  If not then play a dude. did i play/draw a land? if not play a shade.  will corrupt kill them? then play it!! Does he got more dudes then me? then mutilate...all easy questions to answer... OMG black is autopilot now! Could probably make some good 2hg partners with just a tactics/gambits option like in dragon age or FF12. O.o

again joking but kindof true too... this argument just goes in circles!!

people really seem to think murders/counters take more thought then creatures but IMO its all timing and choices need to be made by both. Maybe its even more difficult for creature decks cause they have to think about what unknown removals are in the opponents hand.  But then again the removal deck has to think about maybe he's got some better dudes in his hand... again I just made a circle!!
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