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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 3:11AM #1
Noohj
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
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Update: Went 6-1  at Gatecrash release for FNM. Won first place.   I went 2-0 vs Zombies and vs USA Miracle.  Lost the 1 match to Jund aggro. (he got a niiice string of bloodrush combos)

Still a work in progress. I'm wanting something similar to this...  but perhaps it's too creature heavy. I feel like it needs a bit more control... 
Another idea would be to get rid of the Niblis AND beckon apparition and swap in the Blood Artists/Killing Waves.    I might actually just put the Killing Waves/Blood Artists IN my sideboard so I could very well just swap when I need to.
 


Land (21)

Creature (21)

Instant (7)




Enchantment (5)

Sideboard (15)
  • 1x Intangible Virtue
  • 3x Murder
  • 2x Stab Wound
  • 2x Sundering Growth
  • 2x Soul Tithe
  • 1x Witchbane Orb
  • 2x Ultimate Price
  • 2x Arrest

Maybeboard (14)
  • 4x Blood Artist
  • 3x Essence Harvest
  • 3x Killing Wave
  • 1x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
  • 3x Arrest


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 6:58AM #2
00Brak
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2012
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Well for starters I'd say cut a few cards that don't seem like they are needed.

army of the damned & entreat the angels both stand out as cards I'd not run.
blind obediance is a great card, but it belongs on they sideboard IMO.
I am also not a fan of the crypt ghast, I see why you went with them, but really the 2/2 for 4 just seems like removal bait.
nibilis of the urn really does seem like its taking up space from better drops.


ok so some adds I think could do.
sorin seems like a good fit
intagible virtue should be a 4 of IMO, the new -1/-1 token aura would really hurt without one out.
i happen to enjoy doomed traveler, great 1 drop IMO.

outside of that I'd say look for more 4 of's to help bring more stable results. And I'm sure I'm overlooking other great things that could help But I've had a very long night.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 8:37AM #3
POSValkir1
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Tormented Soul might be a better one drop than the Thrull.  He becomes Invisible Stalker once you get the Captain out.  Then you could do a take on Bant Auras which includes Obzedat.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 8:41AM #4
POSValkir1
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Actually, I really like that.  Throw in more Intangible Virtues, and some Ethereal Armor and your deck can become pretty monstrous.

I agree and think Angels, Army, Griselbrand and the Ghast could go.  I'd think either focus on "Spirits" or focus on Ramping into big token spells.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 10:48AM #5
Noohj
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
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Wow I didn't think of Tormented Soul....  I'll need to see how they play out vs  the Thrull.

But Cryptghast will be fine, sicne i have Drogskol captains.

 

I do enjoy the Angel and the Army....  I can get massive results quickly due to crypt ghast...   they are alternative win conditions. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 11:36AM #6
POSValkir1
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I REALLY enjoy Army.  Realistically though, they ARE the wincon in this deck.  I'm just thinking the Reaver is on theme and fills Griselbrands role and the Geist is a mini Angels.

Plus I'm just a sucker for theme decks.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 12:09PM #7
Noohj
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I agree about the reaver vs griselbrand,  i just like having two different options though. Hence why i put in the entreat as well as the army. Since it is also a win condition and could easily get out of hand with crypt ghast.  I am thinking about putting in some more intangible virtues, but i dont feel they are absolutel neessary due to my drogskol captains.

i am considiring dropping griselbrand for another drogskol reaver.... 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 12:39PM #8
POSValkir1
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I agree regarding the Virtues.  If you're not gonna include the Armor, I don't think you need anymore, although I would bring the total "token pump" cards up to 6.  Probably one more Captain since he gives hexproof and is a softer target.  But if Army and Angels is your wincon you might want a third Virtue instead.  Like someone mentioned:  Illness in the Ranks can hurt you pretty bad.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 12:53PM #9
Noohj
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The thng with Illness, i dont know how many people are going to run it, let alone sideboard it.  I mean its only good vs tokens... There arent THAT many token Decks running around.....   Are there? I dont follow. The meta that musch....   But if they do include Illness,  id  throw in my Sundering growth to remove their enchantment whilst populating >:D

I do really want to try using Tormented soul. Vs the thrull parasites...  BUt i just realllllllly lilke that cheap extort with counter removal. +1/1 counters, planeswalker counters,  enchantment counters,   Filibuster counters (lol).   But i guess i. could just side board The parasites...
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 1:18PM #10
POSValkir1
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Good point about the Sundering.

Its hard to argue against using the Thrull on loyalty counters.  Your biggest Planeswalker threat will come from Gideon, Champion of Justice   that guy will get absolutely HUGE against your deck and the Thrull won't even touch his counters.

I don't know if the two life is worth any of the other counters. Although the extort kinda makes up for that.

I have the flaw of immediately assuming a deck I'm looking at will go mainstream and therefore have sideboard hate against it or affect the field in such a way as to force other to make new decks which bash your scissors with rock.  In this vein I'd also watch out for Guardian of the Gateless which is actually worse than Illness if you dont have pump for your counters.  ESPECIALLY if that deck also has Gideon.
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