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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 9:07PM #1
ThisGuyMan
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2012
Posts: 240
creatures: 10
2x snapcaster mage
1x thundermaw hellkite
3x vampire nighthawk
4x delver of secrets

Artifacts: 3
3x runechanter's pike

Spells: 24
4x pillar of flame
4x think twice
3x searing spear
3x negate
3x tribute to hunger
3x syncopate
1x devil's play
3x bonfire of the damned

Sideboard: 15
4x appetite for brains (midrange pillar swap)
3x slaughter games (vs control/thragtusk)
3x essence scatter (vs aggro, swap for negate)
3x lazaav, dimir mastermind (nighthawk control swap)
2x dispel
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 9:26PM #2
Noohj
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Posts: 188
I wouldn't go tri-color.

If I were to make Delver come back,  I'd try to focus on an Izzet deck,  to bring izzet back too.

OR I'd throw Delver in a Simic deck,  so you can have Delver be bros with Experiment One (HUman Insect with Human Ooze :D)

But in all seriousness,  yeah I'd run Izzet. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 9:31PM #3
ThisGuyMan
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 9:26PM, Noohj wrote:

I wouldn't go tri-color.

If I were to make Delver come back,  I'd try to focus on an Izzet deck,  to bring izzet back too.

OR I'd throw Delver in a Simic deck,  so you can have Delver be bros with Experiment One (HUman Insect with Human Ooze :D)

But in all seriousness,  yeah I'd run Izzet. 


 I dont see any reason not to run tri color, the only reason black is there is because tribute to hunger takes out the new obzedet guy that will be the new thragtusk. it also gains me life.

black also gives me nighthawk, have you ever had a runechanter's pike on a nighthawk? Try it sometime. With the counterspells to back him up its powerful.

also, black has the best sideboard imo, appetite for brains is such a nice counterpart to pillar of flame, and slaughter games is a win condition in itsself against certain decks. and if I need a hexproof bruiser instead of my nighthawks i got the new mastermind in there.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 9:46PM #4
Noohj
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
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Well,  tribute to hunger won't guarantee you get his Obdezat, since it's voluntary sacrifice,  he would surely have something else other than him on the field.

I agree that black has a solid board.  But i'm just a stickler when it comes to tri-colors.. I don't know why :x


Why wouldn't you run with Invibsble stalker to put your runechanter pike on?
 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 10:02PM #5
NaughtyWord
Date Joined: May 11, 2012
Posts: 154
Delver just isn't delver without Ponder


Index would be its obvious replacement, but it's terrible compared to Ponder.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 12:16AM #6
PandamanX64
Date Joined: Sep 8, 2010
Posts: 316
1) with only 10 creatures to equip, having three runechanter's pike maindecked might be a bit much. You should probably take one out for another instant/ sorcery to flip delver.


2)  what's up this the negates maindecked? Is it a meta call, or...? Just sticks out as weird to me.


3) with you running both black and red, there are better side options vs aggro than essence scatter. Any kind of removal would probably be better (ultimare price, dreadbore, victim of night, mizzium mortar, etc.)  Honestly, not even sure you need the extra aggro hate, to be honest. Maindecked nighthawks + all that removal is pretty brutal vs aggro game 1.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 4:15AM #7
ThisGuyMan
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 12:16AM, PandamanX64 wrote:

1) with only 10 creatures to equip, having three runechanter's pike maindecked might be a bit much. You should probably take one out for another instant/ sorcery to flip delver.


2)  what's up this the negates maindecked? Is it a meta call, or...? Just sticks out as weird to me.


3) with you running both black and red, there are better side options vs aggro than essence scatter. Any kind of removal would probably be better (ultimare price, dreadbore, victim of night, mizzium mortar, etc.)  Honestly, not even sure you need the extra aggro hate, to be honest. Maindecked nighthawks + all that removal is pretty brutal vs aggro game 1.


The other list I have been thinking about runs white, what do you guys think about this..

creatures: 9
2x aurelia, the warleader
3x geist of saint traft
4x delver of secrets

Artifacts: 3
3x runechanter's pike

Spells: 25
4x pillar of flame
4x think twice
2x boros charm
3x searing spear
2x azorius charm
1x negate
1x mizzium mortar
3x syncopate
1x dissipate
2x aurelia's fury
1x sphinx's revelation
1x bonfire of the damned

Sideboard: would change too, I would need suggestions for this..
2x essence scatter (negate swap vs creatures)
4x divine reckoning (vs mass creatures)
3x negate

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 4:21AM #8
ThisGuyMan
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2012
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 4:15AM, ThisGuyMan wrote:

Jan 31, 2013 -- 12:16AM, PandamanX64 wrote:

1) with only 10 creatures to equip, having three runechanter's pike maindecked might be a bit much. You should probably take one out for another instant/ sorcery to flip delver.


2)  what's up this the negates maindecked? Is it a meta call, or...? Just sticks out as weird to me.


3) with you running both black and red, there are better side options vs aggro than essence scatter. Any kind of removal would probably be better (ultimare price, dreadbore, victim of night, mizzium mortar, etc.)  Honestly, not even sure you need the extra aggro hate, to be honest. Maindecked nighthawks + all that removal is pretty brutal vs aggro game 1.


The other list I have been thinking about runs white, what do you guys think about this..

creatures: 10
2x snapcaster mage
1x thundermaw hellkite
3x geist of saint traft
4x delver of secrets

Artifacts: 2
2x runechanter's pike

Spells: 25
4x pillar of flame
4x think twice
3x searing spear
3x azorius charm
2x negate
1x mizzium mortar
3x syncopate
2x aurelia's fury
3x bonfire of the damned

Sideboard: would change too, I would need suggestions for this..


so i guess my question is, does the decklist look better with black or white splashed into it?

I would need suggestions still either way, and I have taken the suggestions into mind so far.. thanks!

the negate i bumped down to 2, but  yea I see more mid range type decks coming into play so i use negate for the walkers, and w/e tricks they got.

and yea no need for index, lol index is crap. R.I.P ponder

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 6:48AM #9
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UG or RUG are likely the best things for delver, although maybe BUG?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 7:13AM #10
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Deathrite Shaman, Delver, Dryad, and Augur seem like they would play nicely together.
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