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 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 1:05PM #41 SereneChaos Date Joined: Apr 21, 2010 Posts: 4,025 Feb 2, 2013 -- 12:27PM, Dragon_Nut wrote:Nice try, but no. A clock is supposed to accurately indicate the time used by your local community as a whole. It is not a tool of measurement, so the exact nature of time is irrelevant. The important thing is whether or not your clock correctly conveys the time considered to be occuring at that moment in your area of the world.No. A clock is supposed to measure itself as a reference to the passing of time. For instance, the simplest possible clock is a single photon between two perfectly reflective surfaces. It bounces between them (in a perfectly straight line, so as to avoid complications) at the speed of light, without losing momentum, and so it completes the round trip at the same rate each time. We can control the length of a round trip by controlling the distance of the surfaces, and we can record the length of the trip.What it does NOT do, however, is measure any meaningful increment of time. "Meaningful" in this sense, does not reference arbitrary human increments such as seconds, but rather naturally occuring constants of time, such as a unit of Planck time (unless you set the two surfaces one Planck length apart...but this leads to other questions not relevant here). This theoretical clock would only measure one thing: the length of the round trip of the photon, i.e. it's own mechanism.This can be demonstrated more clearly by bringing relativity into the picture. Suppose now that this photon clock is moving. The photon itself is hitting the surfaces at such an angle so that it moves forward with the clock, but now its path from one surface to the other is longer, because it is happening at an angle. From an outside perspective, this means that the entire clock itself is moving more slowly through time. But from the clock's perspective, it means nothing at all. Gravity and acceleration affect movement through time, as per Relativity, but they do not affect the clock's mechanism, and so the clock continues to measure itself, while not measuring the passage of time outside of itself at all. This is why, at sufficient speeds (or a sufficient difference in gravity), normal clocks lose time. Every clock has the same function. It uses a mechanism that takes time to perform some action, and then it measures that mechanism. It does not measure the physical passage of time, but it's own passage of time, and without a way to measure the physical passage of time, there is no way to turn that reference into a meaningful meaasurement. Etiamnunc sto, etiamsi caelum ruat. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 1:13PM #42 Dilleux_Lepaire Date Joined: Dec 6, 2005 Posts: 8,862 Time doesn't exist on its own. It's just a concept invented by human minds. Rules AdvisorQuotes Show Jan 10, 2011 -- 11:15AM, Uhhsam wrote:giving a to a so he can single-handedly bring down .Feb 23, 2011 -- 10:29AM, RPJesus wrote:Feb 23, 2011 -- 6:21AM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:Feb 23, 2011 -- 4:48AM, Riorvard wrote:Rancor dies to in-response removal.Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back.Seriously, there's no way to deal with in any format. It should be banned, except is a lobbyist for the party, so that'll never happen. You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.Apr 16, 2011 -- 12:06PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:Apr 16, 2011 -- 12:02PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.Apr 26, 2011 -- 5:10PM, Vektor480 wrote: I think I wasn't direct enough in my last post. I'll try to fix it now.Ahem...NO ONE CARESthere you have it.May 3, 2011 -- 9:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.May 24, 2011 -- 12:02AM, SleetFox wrote:How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability.  If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat.  Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap.  If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player.  Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield.  Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has?  No freaking way.  Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.May 30, 2011 -- 5:57PM, Vektor480 wrote:The creation of praetors was worth it just because now is a praetor.Jul 6, 2011 -- 4:06AM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:1. cast 2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a 3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo4. them a 5. play a and them for every card in their library. play an and donate them a and a , then play . play and activate a and then donate them a and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever)6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concedeSep 8, 2011 -- 10:08AM, SereneChaos wrote:Sep 8, 2011 -- 10:03AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:Sep 8, 2011 -- 9:39AM, SereneChaos wrote:One part of the statement being true=/=the whole statement true. Whatever.I'm still here about ten minutes away. Whenever you want to get destroyed in Magic, I'm available. I would like to get destroyed in Magic, actually. Do you know anybody good enough?Sep 9, 2011 -- 11:30AM, ElvenSoma wrote:Please format your statements in a way that doesn't look like a baboon hit its face on your keyboard.Sep 10, 2011 -- 2:58AM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:why did Garruk Relentless lose a loyalty counterSpoiler: Show to get to the other sideOct 8, 2011 -- 10:22AM, catowner wrote:You're such an obvious troll that you have hexproof and : Regenerate.Nov 7, 2011 -- 2:34AM, RPJesus wrote:Nov 7, 2011 -- 12:25AM, krichaiushii wrote: being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.Nov 21, 2011 -- 12:09PM, Yanmato1 wrote:Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.Nov 22, 2011 -- 6:59PM, rulesinquisitor wrote:Yeah that (Content Removed) really annoys me.Moderated by MY_self right about naahowwww!Dec 5, 2011 -- 4:01PM, Gemstone386 wrote:Dilleux_Lepaire just won the thread. Jan 21, 2012 -- 12:45PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:And, as usual, Dilleux wins the entire thread. Nice work, sir, nice work. Dec 14, 2011 -- 2:33PM, signofzeta wrote:They need to make 9 layers of zones where cards go when they "die".  Much like Hell.Jan 22, 2012 -- 3:32AM, Escef wrote:Wow, holy doggy poop, kids, obvious statement is obvious.Feb 5, 2012 -- 11:35AM, krichaiushii wrote:Feb 5, 2012 -- 8:48AM, garruk_rellentless wrote:i don't think your geting it WotC is trying to kill the comption to make it so that there shity app is the only one left.I haven't tried the app.   How is its use of English grammar?Cheers!Feb 23, 2012 -- 1:16PM, JustTerrorIt wrote:Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated.Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).Feb 24, 2012 -- 2:29AM, RPJesus wrote:Feb 17, 2012 -- 8:07PM, SereneChaos wrote:If WotC started putting \$100 bills in packs, the players would complain that they folded them wrong.No, they just spam them with .That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).  Mar 12, 2012 -- 11:50AM, RPJesus wrote:Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH.-First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity.-Starting life total is 20. And voila, now things are balanced. Mar 16, 2012 -- 11:06PM, catowner wrote:Here's a clever play you can try yourself:-Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament-Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility-Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out-All his rats now have no abilities.  Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card.-Get him/her banned from competitive magic play Mar 21, 2012 -- 2:30PM, wickeddarkman wrote:But how to mark them without making the individual sleeve different!You could buy a skunk and slam it's butt on you deck (pardon the french)Then after the game just sniff at your opponent's pile of cards and you will know if any of your cards are there!!!Mar 21, 2012 -- 2:38PM, Terti wrote:In Soviet Russia, Sorin opens YouApr 18, 2012 -- 3:33PM, HairlessThoctar wrote:L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar.O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare.V, is very very, extraordinay.E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.May 11, 2012 -- 5:18PM, TinGorilla wrote:The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates.Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block.No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.Jun 15, 2012 -- 9:39AM, Burning_Forest wrote:Jun 15, 2012 -- 9:31AM, chinkeeyong wrote:Torpor Orb is absolutely godawful against .whoever is playing vexing devil is probably losing anywaysJun 15, 2012 -- 4:36PM, RPJesus wrote:I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent style, then the is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:47PM, RPJesus wrote:"Do or do not, there is no try." - Albus Dumbledore, The Lord of the Rings.Jul 16, 2012 -- 3:14PM, catowner wrote:Jul 16, 2012 -- 1:57PM, zpikduM wrote:Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too.Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.Then we shall play in the shade.Jul 20, 2012 -- 6:02PM, catowner wrote:I'm sorry, this forum isn't for getting bad advice on mediocre decks, that's standard deck help.  This forum is for starting ****storms.Aug 13, 2012 -- 7:17AM, bay_falconer wrote:Aug 12, 2012 -- 5:26PM, GM_Champion wrote:Your advice would only lead me to make generic, boring, and unworthy content. It's of no use to me.I just got this image of you as an architect, having finished a building suspended by only a small pole in its southwest corner, saying it's original.Then the building collapses.Aug 22, 2012 -- 7:07PM, RPJesus wrote:I for one love the flavor of legendary lands."I remember my days as a youth at .""Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too.""WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's \$200,000 in student loans well spent."Aug 26, 2012 -- 11:18AM, RPJesus wrote:And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so..."Hey Nissa, I need a favor.""You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab.""...I'll give you ""...Well all right then." Sep 6, 2012 -- 7:35PM, Jessica_Morgan wrote:GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:15AM, AzureShade wrote:Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:10AM, EyeHunter wrote:Tamiyo vs. GideonWhat would they have to fight about?  Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears!  I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?"  and Tamiyo going "Ew!  Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:42AM, Uhhsam wrote:I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side.  Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off.  Win Win.Nov 5, 2012 -- 10:48AM, Renasce wrote:MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.Nov 29, 2012 -- 9:00AM, bay_falconer wrote:Nov 29, 2012 -- 8:56AM, GeekyDad wrote:You open a booster pack, and staring back at you from the rare slot is a Lotleth Troll?At least I can stick him in my EDH deck and still have four for my standard constructed.Because lol trollDec 20, 2012 -- 9:49AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:It helped that I more or less skipped most of GM_Champion's longer diatribes. I only have so many brain cells I'm willing to sacrifice each day.Jan 13, 2013 -- 8:14AM, Catotheyounger wrote:Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house.  Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness.  "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet?  The set deadline's coming up fast."  "We're almost through.  It should be coming up on the screen any second."  The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen.  Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see.  It's like the ending to 2001:  A Space Odyssey.  Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy.  And then they steal his ideas.  As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere.  The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question:  "Kevin, my greatest student.  He - he's all right, isn't he?  You didn't hurt him?"  Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot.  "Know your place, Richard.  Get back to work." Feb 5, 2013 -- 9:30AM, Jman22 wrote:Now show me on the Garruk doll where Zac Hill ruined your enjoyment of Magic...Mar 5, 2013 -- 9:36AM, Astarael7 wrote:I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use.From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin.183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.Apr 26, 2013 -- 7:53PM, Decktesting54 wrote:Apr 26, 2013 -- 3:50PM, Ebontail wrote:Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....May 9, 2013 -- 1:23PM, Smoke_Stack wrote:Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning . He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.Break the Card Show What is Break the Card? Show Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. ) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!Week 1 : Xenograft Show This week's Break the Card was based around .Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck.Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck.Honorable mentions : Zammm for the combo and TinGorilla for suggesting .Week 2 : Mindlock Orb Show Here's the link to the contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269Winner : Axterix with his deck.Honorable mentions : Void_Elemental.Week 3 : Bludgeon Brawl Show Here's the link to Break the Card : : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck.Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck.Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.Week 4 : Followed Footsteps Show This week was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck.Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.Week 5 : Delaying Shield Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27790101/Break_the_Card_:_Delaying_ShieldWinner : Tevish_Szat.Finalist : Vampire_Bat.Honorable Mention : Zix200.Week 6 : Painter's Servant Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27940861/Break_the_Card_:_Painters_Servant?pg=1Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Paint it Black deck.Finalist : Wprundv with his Tiger, Tiger Painted Bright deck.Week 7 : Venser, the Sojourner Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27977489/Break_the_Card_:_Venser,_the_SojournerWinner : Izzett with her "Venser, Trickster Trader" deck.Finalist : Wprundv with his "Tactical Sojourner Action" deck.Week 8 : Personal Sanctuary Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28005461/Break_the_card_:_Personal_SanctuaryWinner : MrQuizzles.Honorable mention : Vampire_Bat and UbberSheepWeek 9 : Sundial of the Infinite Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28038277/Break_the_card_:_Sundial_of_the_InfiniteFinalist : Izzett with her "Afterlife Trespassers" deck.Winner : Xeromus with his "Fortune 500" deck.Week 10 : Jace's Archivist Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist.Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck.Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.Week 11 : Search the City Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29518555/Break_the_Card_:_Search_the_CityFinalist : Mown with "A Thousand Footsteps".Winner : Desolation_masticore with "Burn the City".Week 12 : Fiend Hunter Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29530975/Break_the_Card_:_Fiend_HunterWinner : Yuyu63 with "Carnival Hunting".Honorable mention : Dknowle's "Champion the Fiend".Week 13 : Clock of Omens Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29541549/Break_the_Card_:_Clock_of_Omens?pg=1Winner : Dknowle's "The Myrs Go Marching".Week 14 : Light of Sanction Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29607219/Break_the_Card_:_Light_of_Sanction?pg=1Winner : Zauzich's "Divine Plague".Week 15 : Assemble the Legion Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29662307/Break_the_Card_:_Assemble_the_LegionWinner : JBTM's "Some Assembly Required".Week 16 : High Tide Show This week's cards were and/or :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29760427/Break_the_Card_:_High_TideWinner : Mown's "Puppet Strings".Week 17 : Illusionist's Bracers Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29776943/Break_the_Card_:_Illusionistss_BracersWinner : Enigma256's "Tezzeret's Bracers"Week 18 : Savor the Moment Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29787235/Break_the_Card_:_Savor_the_MomentWinner : POSValkir's "A Savory Filibuster!"Week 19 : Grinning Ignus Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29795547/Break_the_Card_:_Grinning_IgnusWinner : dknowle's "Luren' and Laughin'".Week 20 : Transcendence Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29806481/Break_the_Card_:_TranscendenceWinners : Mown's "Transcending Timing Restrictions" and Dknowle's "Blinded by Greed", tied for the win.Week 21 : Mortus Strider Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29818471/Break_the_Card_:_Mortus_StriderWinner : SimonGlume's "Mortus Head".Week 22 : High Priest of Penance Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29917231/Break_the_Card_High_Priest_of_PenanceWinners : JBTM's "Two Clerics and a Goblin walk into a (Bom)bar(dment)..." and POSValkir1's "Choke Their Rivers with Our Dead!". Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 1:34PM #43 SereneChaos Date Joined: Apr 21, 2010 Posts: 4,025 Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:Time doesn't exist on its own. It's just a concept invented by human minds.Close; time exists, but the compartmentalization of it is a human construction. Time is a single, contiguous dimension like the 3 spatial dimensions, and every point of time exists simultaneously just as every point in space exists simultaneously. We move through time in much the same way that we move through space, but with much less control and much more difficulty in comprehending the nature of our motion. Etiamnunc sto, etiamsi caelum ruat. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 1:38PM #44 Dragon_Nut Date Joined: Feb 22, 2005 Posts: 2,135 Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:05PM, SereneChaos wrote:[SNIP]CONGRATULATIONS! You missed the entire point. Did you see the bit where I mentioned that a clock is not a measuring device?Going into deep physics is all well and good, but really when somebody looks at a clock they aren't wondering about relativity, they're wondering whether or not they're going to be late to work. If the clock says '8:00' and the clock at their office a mile away says '4:50', then one of those clocks is wrong. It doesn't matter whether either or those numbers has any real meaning outside of Earth. What is important is that the guy's about to be fired because he forgot to replace the batteries in his clock and was too busy playing Minecraft to notice the clock wasn't actually moving. (And apparently too clueless to check the clock on his computer)Sure, you can say that a clock isn't a 'meaningful measurement' but that's somewhat similar to saying that since a hundred dollar bill doesn't have any intrinsic value that it is worthless. When discussing human constructs in the context of the human experience, you should probably start by measuring the meaning of a clock to humanity.It's okay to not pull out relativity every time it's even tangentially relevant. Einstein won't mind. He's dead. Immature College Student(Also a Rules Advisor) Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 2:10PM #45 SereneChaos Date Joined: Apr 21, 2010 Posts: 4,025 Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:38PM, Dragon_Nut wrote:Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:05PM, SereneChaos wrote:[SNIP]CONGRATULATIONS! You missed the entire point. Did you see the bit where I mentioned that a clock is not a measuring device?Going into deep physics is all well and good, but really when somebody looks at a clock they aren't wondering about relativity, they're wondering whether or not they're going to be late to work. If the clock says '8:00' and the clock at their office a mile away says '4:50', then one of those clocks is wrong. It doesn't matter whether either or those numbers has any real meaning outside of Earth. What is important is that the guy's about to be fired because he forgot to replace the batteries in his clock and was too busy playing Minecraft to notice the clock wasn't actually moving. (And apparently too clueless to check the clock on his computer)Sure, you can say that a clock isn't a 'meaningful measurement' but that's somewhat similar to saying that since a hundred dollar bill doesn't have any intrinsic value that it is worthless. When discussing human constructs in the context of the human experience, you should probably start by measuring the meaning of a clock to humanity.It's okay to not pull out relativity every time it's even tangentially relevant. Einstein won't mind. He's dead.We weren't discussing the human experience though, except in the sense of it's relationship to actual reality. If that's what you thought, then you missed the point, because nobody said anything about the practical use of clocks before you did. Etiamnunc sto, etiamsi caelum ruat. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 2:59PM #46 Dilleux_Lepaire Date Joined: Dec 6, 2005 Posts: 8,862 Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:34PM, SereneChaos wrote:Feb 2, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:Time doesn't exist on its own. It's just a concept invented by human minds.Close; time exists, but the compartmentalization of it is a human construction. Time is a single, contiguous dimension like the 3 spatial dimensions, and every point of time exists simultaneously just as every point in space exists simultaneously. We move through time in much the same way that we move through space, but with much less control and much more difficulty in comprehending the nature of our motion.Time doens't exist more than litres exists independantly of volume : it's a unit of measurement. Rules AdvisorQuotes Show Jan 10, 2011 -- 11:15AM, Uhhsam wrote:giving a to a so he can single-handedly bring down .Feb 23, 2011 -- 10:29AM, RPJesus wrote:Feb 23, 2011 -- 6:21AM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:Feb 23, 2011 -- 4:48AM, Riorvard wrote:Rancor dies to in-response removal.Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back.Seriously, there's no way to deal with in any format. It should be banned, except is a lobbyist for the party, so that'll never happen. You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.Apr 16, 2011 -- 12:06PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:Apr 16, 2011 -- 12:02PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.Apr 26, 2011 -- 5:10PM, Vektor480 wrote: I think I wasn't direct enough in my last post. I'll try to fix it now.Ahem...NO ONE CARESthere you have it.May 3, 2011 -- 9:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.May 24, 2011 -- 12:02AM, SleetFox wrote:How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability.  If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat.  Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap.  If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player.  Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield.  Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has?  No freaking way.  Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.May 30, 2011 -- 5:57PM, Vektor480 wrote:The creation of praetors was worth it just because now is a praetor.Jul 6, 2011 -- 4:06AM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:1. cast 2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a 3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo4. them a 5. play a and them for every card in their library. play an and donate them a and a , then play . play and activate a and then donate them a and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever)6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concedeSep 8, 2011 -- 10:08AM, SereneChaos wrote:Sep 8, 2011 -- 10:03AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:Sep 8, 2011 -- 9:39AM, SereneChaos wrote:One part of the statement being true=/=the whole statement true. Whatever.I'm still here about ten minutes away. Whenever you want to get destroyed in Magic, I'm available. I would like to get destroyed in Magic, actually. Do you know anybody good enough?Sep 9, 2011 -- 11:30AM, ElvenSoma wrote:Please format your statements in a way that doesn't look like a baboon hit its face on your keyboard.Sep 10, 2011 -- 2:58AM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:why did Garruk Relentless lose a loyalty counterSpoiler: Show to get to the other sideOct 8, 2011 -- 10:22AM, catowner wrote:You're such an obvious troll that you have hexproof and : Regenerate.Nov 7, 2011 -- 2:34AM, RPJesus wrote:Nov 7, 2011 -- 12:25AM, krichaiushii wrote: being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.Nov 21, 2011 -- 12:09PM, Yanmato1 wrote:Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.Nov 22, 2011 -- 6:59PM, rulesinquisitor wrote:Yeah that (Content Removed) really annoys me.Moderated by MY_self right about naahowwww!Dec 5, 2011 -- 4:01PM, Gemstone386 wrote:Dilleux_Lepaire just won the thread. Jan 21, 2012 -- 12:45PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:And, as usual, Dilleux wins the entire thread. Nice work, sir, nice work. Dec 14, 2011 -- 2:33PM, signofzeta wrote:They need to make 9 layers of zones where cards go when they "die".  Much like Hell.Jan 22, 2012 -- 3:32AM, Escef wrote:Wow, holy doggy poop, kids, obvious statement is obvious.Feb 5, 2012 -- 11:35AM, krichaiushii wrote:Feb 5, 2012 -- 8:48AM, garruk_rellentless wrote:i don't think your geting it WotC is trying to kill the comption to make it so that there shity app is the only one left.I haven't tried the app.   How is its use of English grammar?Cheers!Feb 23, 2012 -- 1:16PM, JustTerrorIt wrote:Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated.Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).Feb 24, 2012 -- 2:29AM, RPJesus wrote:Feb 17, 2012 -- 8:07PM, SereneChaos wrote:If WotC started putting \$100 bills in packs, the players would complain that they folded them wrong.No, they just spam them with .That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).  Mar 12, 2012 -- 11:50AM, RPJesus wrote:Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH.-First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity.-Starting life total is 20. And voila, now things are balanced. Mar 16, 2012 -- 11:06PM, catowner wrote:Here's a clever play you can try yourself:-Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament-Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility-Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out-All his rats now have no abilities.  Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card.-Get him/her banned from competitive magic play Mar 21, 2012 -- 2:30PM, wickeddarkman wrote:But how to mark them without making the individual sleeve different!You could buy a skunk and slam it's butt on you deck (pardon the french)Then after the game just sniff at your opponent's pile of cards and you will know if any of your cards are there!!!Mar 21, 2012 -- 2:38PM, Terti wrote:In Soviet Russia, Sorin opens YouApr 18, 2012 -- 3:33PM, HairlessThoctar wrote:L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar.O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare.V, is very very, extraordinay.E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.May 11, 2012 -- 5:18PM, TinGorilla wrote:The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates.Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block.No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.Jun 15, 2012 -- 9:39AM, Burning_Forest wrote:Jun 15, 2012 -- 9:31AM, chinkeeyong wrote:Torpor Orb is absolutely godawful against .whoever is playing vexing devil is probably losing anywaysJun 15, 2012 -- 4:36PM, RPJesus wrote:I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent style, then the is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:47PM, RPJesus wrote:"Do or do not, there is no try." - Albus Dumbledore, The Lord of the Rings.Jul 16, 2012 -- 3:14PM, catowner wrote:Jul 16, 2012 -- 1:57PM, zpikduM wrote:Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too.Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.Then we shall play in the shade.Jul 20, 2012 -- 6:02PM, catowner wrote:I'm sorry, this forum isn't for getting bad advice on mediocre decks, that's standard deck help.  This forum is for starting ****storms.Aug 13, 2012 -- 7:17AM, bay_falconer wrote:Aug 12, 2012 -- 5:26PM, GM_Champion wrote:Your advice would only lead me to make generic, boring, and unworthy content. It's of no use to me.I just got this image of you as an architect, having finished a building suspended by only a small pole in its southwest corner, saying it's original.Then the building collapses.Aug 22, 2012 -- 7:07PM, RPJesus wrote:I for one love the flavor of legendary lands."I remember my days as a youth at .""Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too.""WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's \$200,000 in student loans well spent."Aug 26, 2012 -- 11:18AM, RPJesus wrote:And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so..."Hey Nissa, I need a favor.""You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab.""...I'll give you ""...Well all right then." Sep 6, 2012 -- 7:35PM, Jessica_Morgan wrote:GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:15AM, AzureShade wrote:Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:10AM, EyeHunter wrote:Tamiyo vs. GideonWhat would they have to fight about?  Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears!  I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?"  and Tamiyo going "Ew!  Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:42AM, Uhhsam wrote:I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side.  Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off.  Win Win.Nov 5, 2012 -- 10:48AM, Renasce wrote:MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.Nov 29, 2012 -- 9:00AM, bay_falconer wrote:Nov 29, 2012 -- 8:56AM, GeekyDad wrote:You open a booster pack, and staring back at you from the rare slot is a Lotleth Troll?At least I can stick him in my EDH deck and still have four for my standard constructed.Because lol trollDec 20, 2012 -- 9:49AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:It helped that I more or less skipped most of GM_Champion's longer diatribes. I only have so many brain cells I'm willing to sacrifice each day.Jan 13, 2013 -- 8:14AM, Catotheyounger wrote:Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house.  Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness.  "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet?  The set deadline's coming up fast."  "We're almost through.  It should be coming up on the screen any second."  The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen.  Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see.  It's like the ending to 2001:  A Space Odyssey.  Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy.  And then they steal his ideas.  As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere.  The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question:  "Kevin, my greatest student.  He - he's all right, isn't he?  You didn't hurt him?"  Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot.  "Know your place, Richard.  Get back to work." Feb 5, 2013 -- 9:30AM, Jman22 wrote:Now show me on the Garruk doll where Zac Hill ruined your enjoyment of Magic...Mar 5, 2013 -- 9:36AM, Astarael7 wrote:I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use.From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin.183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.Apr 26, 2013 -- 7:53PM, Decktesting54 wrote:Apr 26, 2013 -- 3:50PM, Ebontail wrote:Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....May 9, 2013 -- 1:23PM, Smoke_Stack wrote:Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning . He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.Break the Card Show What is Break the Card? Show Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. ) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!Week 1 : Xenograft Show This week's Break the Card was based around .Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck.Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck.Honorable mentions : Zammm for the combo and TinGorilla for suggesting .Week 2 : Mindlock Orb Show Here's the link to the contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269Winner : Axterix with his deck.Honorable mentions : Void_Elemental.Week 3 : Bludgeon Brawl Show Here's the link to Break the Card : : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck.Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck.Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.Week 4 : Followed Footsteps Show This week was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck.Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.Week 5 : Delaying Shield Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27790101/Break_the_Card_:_Delaying_ShieldWinner : Tevish_Szat.Finalist : Vampire_Bat.Honorable Mention : Zix200.Week 6 : Painter's Servant Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27940861/Break_the_Card_:_Painters_Servant?pg=1Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Paint it Black deck.Finalist : Wprundv with his Tiger, Tiger Painted Bright deck.Week 7 : Venser, the Sojourner Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27977489/Break_the_Card_:_Venser,_the_SojournerWinner : Izzett with her "Venser, Trickster Trader" deck.Finalist : Wprundv with his "Tactical Sojourner Action" deck.Week 8 : Personal Sanctuary Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28005461/Break_the_card_:_Personal_SanctuaryWinner : MrQuizzles.Honorable mention : Vampire_Bat and UbberSheepWeek 9 : Sundial of the Infinite Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28038277/Break_the_card_:_Sundial_of_the_InfiniteFinalist : Izzett with her "Afterlife Trespassers" deck.Winner : Xeromus with his "Fortune 500" deck.Week 10 : Jace's Archivist Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist.Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck.Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.Week 11 : Search the City Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29518555/Break_the_Card_:_Search_the_CityFinalist : Mown with "A Thousand Footsteps".Winner : Desolation_masticore with "Burn the City".Week 12 : Fiend Hunter Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29530975/Break_the_Card_:_Fiend_HunterWinner : Yuyu63 with "Carnival Hunting".Honorable mention : Dknowle's "Champion the Fiend".Week 13 : Clock of Omens Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29541549/Break_the_Card_:_Clock_of_Omens?pg=1Winner : Dknowle's "The Myrs Go Marching".Week 14 : Light of Sanction Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29607219/Break_the_Card_:_Light_of_Sanction?pg=1Winner : Zauzich's "Divine Plague".Week 15 : Assemble the Legion Show This week's card was :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29662307/Break_the_Card_:_Assemble_the_LegionWinner : JBTM's "Some Assembly Required".Week 16 : High Tide Show This week's cards were and/or :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29760427/Break_the_Card_:_High_TideWinner : Mown's "Puppet Strings".Week 17 : Illusionist's Bracers Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29776943/Break_the_Card_:_Illusionistss_BracersWinner : Enigma256's "Tezzeret's Bracers"Week 18 : Savor the Moment Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29787235/Break_the_Card_:_Savor_the_MomentWinner : POSValkir's "A Savory Filibuster!"Week 19 : Grinning Ignus Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29795547/Break_the_Card_:_Grinning_IgnusWinner : dknowle's "Luren' and Laughin'".Week 20 : Transcendence Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29806481/Break_the_Card_:_TranscendenceWinners : Mown's "Transcending Timing Restrictions" and Dknowle's "Blinded by Greed", tied for the win.Week 21 : Mortus Strider Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29818471/Break_the_Card_:_Mortus_StriderWinner : SimonGlume's "Mortus Head".Week 22 : High Priest of Penance Show This week's card was : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29917231/Break_the_Card_High_Priest_of_PenanceWinners : JBTM's "Two Clerics and a Goblin walk into a (Bom)bar(dment)..." and POSValkir1's "Choke Their Rivers with Our Dead!". Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 3:42PM #47 niheloim Date Joined: Feb 3, 2008 Posts: 6,226 I never liked that time was a one way trip, just at variable speeds. When playing Commander, before you add a card to your deck, you have to ask yourself: "Is this card better than ?" If you play commander and don't have your deck[s] in the Decklist Compendium, maybe you should. Or if you're new or looking into the format, the compendium has some good advice for beginners as well as decklists. 3DH4LIF3We should all have one of these playable from our sideboards Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 4:18PM #48 Shadowchu Terminal n00b Date Joined: Sep 10, 2006 Posts: 5,649 Guys, time doesn't exist. A clock doesn't prove the existence of time and having a unit of measure to measure it doesn't prove it exists either. Based on current modes of logic, something cannot exist before it is proven to exist. We use relative measurements to construct an understanding of time but because of only having relative context it does not give it concrete meaning. We rely on time because we've decided that we as a society needed to at some point.  Good in EDH Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 4:23PM #49 quadibloc Date Joined: Aug 20, 2008 Posts: 4,183 Feb 2, 2013 -- 12:19PM, SereneChaos wrote:A clock is always right, because clocks measure themselves. Time is a dimensional analogue of space that simply exists at all points and we move through it, as of yet incapable of measuring it except for our own subjective sense of chronology.It is true that clocks don't measure time "directly". However, they are still affected by time; as they prove that time is real - if there were no such thing as time, only past, future, and the succession of events, there would be no reason for clocks not directly connected together to keep time with each other, even approximately.The coincidence that you can place one clock based on a pendulum in a closed room, and another clock based on a tuning fork in another room, blocks away, and a third one using a quartz crystal in yet another room - and the relative rates of their repeated cycles will stay the same as they were when they were originally calibrated against a common standard - means that there is a uniform rate at which duration passes in all locations. It doesn't vary randomly in fits and starts (although special relativity shows us it can be varied in one specific and predictable way).The phenomenon of uniformity in the rate of passage of events needs a name, and "time" is as good a name for it as any other.Feb 2, 2013 -- 4:18PM, Shadowchu wrote:Guys, time doesn't exist. A clock doesn't prove the existence of time and having a unit of measure to measure it doesn't prove it exists either. Based on current modes of logic, something cannot exist before it is proven to exist. We use relative measurements to construct an understanding of time but because of only having relative context it does not give it concrete meaning. We rely on time because we've decided that we as a society needed to at some point.Actually, things exist, or not, regardless of what we have proven, or what we think we have proven.A valid proof that something exists can't be constructed unless it has that thing's actual prior existence to stand on.Now, while I think clocks do prove the existence of time, what I'm calling time is that which causes the apparent coincidence of clocks behaving in a consistent manner in measuring durations - instead of going faster or slower once they're isolated from each other. Time isn't an object you can pick up and carry, and as far as we know, it's not a direction you can move in either.So, while I do think an abstraction exists that corresponds to the name 'time', it's valid to say that it doesn't have all the attributes of certain more concrete things that we may sometimes invest it with. Coming up with weird ideas to make everyone happy since 2008!I have now started a blog as an appropriate place to put my crazy ideas. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2013 - 6:01PM #50 Dragon_Nut Date Joined: Feb 22, 2005 Posts: 2,135 Feb 2, 2013 -- 2:10PM, SereneChaos wrote:We weren't discussing the human experience though, except in the sense of it's relationship to actual reality. If that's what you thought, then you missed the point, because nobody said anything about the practical use of clocks before you did.It is obvious you have a great deal of knowledge about the dynamics of time with regards to relativity, but apparently a dismal lack of wisdom. This tangent was brought about by the English idiom 'Even a broken clock is right twice a day.' This statement is meant to indicate that even somebody who is misinformed will be correct occasionally. It is based on the fact that a clock which does not move will occasionally reflect the time, based on the system of time subdivision as used by humans.You then took it to be a deep an intellectual statement connected to relativity and the fundamental nature of time in the universe, proving that you can posses a large amount of knowledge and still have absolutely no idea how to apply it to the subject at hand.But by all means, continue to inform me about how I missed the point that Dilleux_Lepaire meant 'A broken clock is right twice a day' to indicate a belief that Bay_Falconer was correct out of happenstance rather than actual knowledge. Immature College Student(Also a Rules Advisor) Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply?
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