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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 1:18AM #21
Terti
Date Joined: Nov 24, 2011
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I think High Priest of Penance would like that Ethereal Armor if you're still putting it in.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:32AM #22
POSValkir1
Date Joined: Oct 16, 2012
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Oh man, I go to bed and wake up to so many great ideas!

I might revisit the mono-black burn deck.

I like the High Priest, Ethereal Armor combo, I was looking for a cheap yet reliable way to make him deadly.  How fun would it be to have four of him on the board, each with +1/+1 and then Izzet Staticaster them?  lol.  Too much work, but one can dream.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 5:33AM #23
POSValkir1
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Hmmm...both the caster and the priest are humans.... Cavern of Souls might make it playable.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 6:54AM #24
VRdragoon
Date Joined: May 5, 2011
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 7:04PM, Noohj wrote:



RAAAAAAPES.




First off, stow this language. I can ignore a lot of stuff on the net, but using this word as a synonym for winning is wrong on many, many levels and socially toxic.

Onto the deck:

You are trying to do waaaaaaaay to many things here. You can make a black reach deck without, well, reaching so much. If you want to kill them slowly, you need to slow them down first. Employ some removal and disruption to ensure that you and your threats are safe. 

Your threats should function well on their own. Thrull Parasite + Messenger + sac outlet is cute, but the first and last card here are rarely good enough by themselves (unless the sac outlet is Falkenrath Aristocrat). Obzedat is good as well. Deathrite shaman fits in here too well, you should have a higher than average ratio of spells to dudes, so activating his ability should be easy and provide you with some extra reach. You also have access to both of the M13 Knights, which block dang near everything in the current meta, outside of straight-up RDW.

If you want to run extort cards, use Blind Obedience . Hedges you against Red's hasty dudes, and gives you an extra attack through each blocker they play, giving you a whole additional draw step to find removal for it. 

Here's an example:

4 x Deathrite Shaman
4 x Knight of Infamy
2 x Knight of Glory
4 x Geralf's Messenger
3 x Obzedat, Ghost Hitchikers

2 x Victim of Night
2 x Ultimate Price
3 x Orzhov Charm

3 x Duress
2 x Mind Rot

4 x Bump in the Night

3 x Blind Obedience

2 x Vault of the Archangel
1 x Gavony Township
4 x Godless Shrine
4 x Overgrown Tomb
4 x Isolated Chapel
6 x Swamp
3 x Plains


Completely untested, off the top of my head, but none of these cards are bad on their own, and they all play well together. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 7:38AM #25
cappio
Date Joined: Jan 28, 2013
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the combination of Shaman with sorceries looks good but... why the knights? Knight of Glory and Orzhov Charm are the only white card, with Blind Obedience . You could play a mono black deck with discard rats
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 7:57AM #26
VRdragoon
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I picked the Knights for their defensive capabilities. They both block a LOT of early aggresors very well, and they can turn sideways through some of hte more obnoxious blockers if needed.

Obzedat is also a white card, and he really wants to be at this party. Splashing in some white on the back of B/W duals doesn't inhibit the flow of the deck enough to warrent cutting the color and losing some versatility.

Lingering Souls could see a spot here if the need to gum up the board becomes a thing. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 8:28AM #27
POSValkir1
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[You are trying to do waaaaaaaay to many things here.[/quote]


Really, I was trying to do one thing here:  Direct Damage..  You are right though the deck, in playtesting, is actually turning out to be more of an aggro deck which uses Extort and some simple life gain to stay afloat.  It actually plays pretty well, but there is room for improvement.

You're right on the money with the Shaman.  Direct damage, Mana and Life gain all in one package.

I probably should get rid of the Thrull, but he is my little project for this Standard.  I want him to be useful lol.  I might just shift this more aggro and pump up the Desecration Demon's and build a whole new list for a Black Burn deck.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 8:35AM #28
VRdragoon
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Thrull would be a fine sideboard card vs. any superfriends deck, since it helps hose 'walkers. It's ability is too costly to warrent comboing it with anything else, unless that thing gains you more than 2 life.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 10:03AM #29
DarkEagle
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 1:18AM, Terti wrote:

I think High Priest of Penance would like that Ethereal Armor if you're still putting it in.




Not really actually. The first strike pretty much negates the preist's effect.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 10:16AM #30
POSValkir1
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Touche
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