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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:27PM #11
Bowshewicz
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The idea that planeswalkers are like players, and the corollary marketing tagline, "You are a planeswalker" are probably pretty effective for getting people excited about playing Magic and getting the rarer cards. (It works on me, anyway.)

In general, though, they've been a nightmare for us on the Q&A forum. There is no rules connection between a player and a planeswalker.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:31PM #12
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 1:44PM, xRiFxCarson wrote:

What are the Only ways you can "destroy" a Planeswalker


Planeswalker uniqueness rule
0 Loyalty counters (damage, Vampire Hexmage )
destroy effects ( Dreadbore , Vindicate )
marked damage greater than its toughness (assuming it's a creature )
toughness less than 1 (assuming it's a creature )
the world rule ( Enchanted Evening + Opalescence + Mirrorweave cast at Concordant Crossroads )


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:32PM #13
Ichibann
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:27PM, Bowshewicz wrote:

There is no rules connection between a player and a planeswalker.


Except a rule that allows redirecting damage from player to planeswalker.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:33PM #14
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:31PM, 2goth4U wrote:

Jan 30, 2013 -- 1:44PM, xRiFxCarson wrote:

What are the Only ways you can "destroy" a Planeswalker


Planeswalker uniqueness rule
0 Loyalty counters (damage, Vampire Hexmage )
destroy effects ( Dreadbore )
marked damage greater than its toughness (assuming it's a creature )
toughness less than 1 (assuming it's a creature )
the world rule ( Enchanted Evening + Opalescence + Mirrorweave cast at Concordant Crossroads )



And sacrifice .

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:34PM #15
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:31PM, 2goth4U wrote:

marked damage greater than its toughness (assuming it's a creature )



Gideon always makes sure to either prevent all damage, become indestructible, or both when he turns into a creature, so you'll have to do a bit of maneuvering to get this to work.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:35PM #16
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:37PM #17
Ichibann
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:34PM, FezzHead wrote:

Gideon always makes sure to either prevent all damage, become indestructible, or both when he turns into a creature, so you'll have to do a bit of maneuvering to get this to work.


Gideon is not only planeswalker that can be a creature. Every planeswalker can be a creature.

Offtopic: Assume you are a planeswalker. You turn into a creature. How do you feel?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:40PM #18
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:37PM, Ichibann wrote:

Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:34PM, FezzHead wrote:

Gideon always makes sure to either prevent all damage, become indestructible, or both when he turns into a creature, so you'll have to do a bit of maneuvering to get this to work.


Gideon is not only planeswalker that can be a creature. Every planeswalker can be a creature.



Gideon is the only planeswalker that can become a creature without needing another card to do so. That would be the "maneuvering" I was talking about.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 2:42PM #19
Ichibann
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:40PM, FezzHead wrote:

Gideon is the only planeswalker that can become a creature without needing another card to do so. That would be the "maneuvering" I was talking about.


I thought "maneuvering" was about getting around Gideon's damage prevention or indestructibility.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 3:52PM #20
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:31PM, 2goth4U wrote:

Jan 30, 2013 -- 1:44PM, xRiFxCarson wrote:

What are the Only ways you can "destroy" a Planeswalker


Planeswalker uniqueness rule
0 Loyalty counters (damage, Vampire Hexmage )
destroy effects ( Dreadbore , Vindicate )
marked damage greater than its toughness (assuming it's a creature )
toughness less than 1 (assuming it's a creature )
the world rule ( Enchanted Evening + Opalescence + Mirrorweave cast at Concordant Crossroads )





Don't forget forcing your opponent to Death Wish the planeswalker from the main game, after you've begun resolving Shahrazad , get a Hive Mind on the battlefield, then cast Death Wish on your opponent's turn (off of a Quicken ) after you've Mindslaver 'd them. Then the planeswalker (after you finish the subgame & Shahrazad) will simpy cease to exist.

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