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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 8:18PM
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Token, eldrazi ramp, and  vamps should all be capable of beating a goblin aggro deck using krenko. Would you like to maybe show is your favorite of those 3 and we can simply tweak it to run better? That way you have a great deck to face off all your buddies decks, rather than a super narrow "my deck beats your one deck...but dies to everything else" -cuz that is lame
I'm looking to make 2  decks, casual Vamp and casual Zombie.
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Willing to go $50 budget for each deck. For the vamp I'd like to keep it mono-black if possible, first deck I built myself and have a fondness for it haha. My favorite would definitely be the Vamp deck, then Eldrazi, then token.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 31, 2013 - 11:10PM
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Conversion  , silver knight  are good and there is Tivadar of thorn  Best beat though is to look at an archetype that is more competitive...
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 2:20AM
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From your decklists, I am wondering if you have issues making your first six land drops? If so, you might want to up your land count; from experience, Cloudpost works best as 8 or 12 post - 4 of each Locus and 4 Vesuva  , although I guess Thespian's Stage  could work, as well. Consistency within your decks would help, as well. Try to get 3-4 copies of the key cards, rather than all of the 1-2 copies (except Kozilek - you only need one of him), as this will enhance your games. Cheers!
A shout out to Gaming Grounds in Kent, Ohio and Gamers N Geeks in Mobile, Alabama.
www.zombiehunters.org for all your preparation needs.
http://shtfschool.com/ - why prepping is useful, from one who has been there.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 3:19AM
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The eldrazi ramp deck needs a few things to function well. 1. A non-basic land mana base. It's 3 colors...pretty much auto-equals major budget (my grixis control deck -   - cost like....250 bucks). The reason is you need a lot of dual and tri colored lands, which aren't cheap, to ensure you have proper access to all your colors. 2. The best way to cheat fatties out with newer cards (modern legal and up) happen to be both in red and green, and you have neither- summoning trap  and through the breach  . Your whole goal should be mana ramp into a T3 emrakul, the aeons torn  off the back of a Breach. That's pretty much GG to MANY decks. No Emmy is ok, any of the eldrazi with at least annihilator 3 or higher is good. 3. Some good ramp engines. birds of paradise  , llanowar elves  , and farseek  are all good starting places. The game should look like this optimally for you: T1. Land, birds T2:land, llanowar T3:land, tap out for through the breach casting emrakul, the aeons torn . ...GG? *shake hands* That should be able to beat krenko. You can cut black from the list, make it 2 colors, and with BOP and farseek, run it off basic land, saving your budget for the cheat cards and Emmy  Vamp deck and zombies: Same basic advice for both-they are fast aggro decks. You want to curve out at like 4 mana for your biggest hitters, MAYBE like 3-4 cards higher than that. Rest should be dig ( sign in blood  ) and some light removal ( dismember  ). Get 4x your important cards, and just swing for the fences.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 6:22AM
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The game should look like this optimally for you: T1. Land, birds T2:land, llanowar T3:land, tap out for through the breach casting emrakul, the aeons torn . ...GG? *shake hands* That should be able to beat krenko.
My only issue with this is what Goblin deck is going to let a BoP and mana dork sit there? They gonna get blowed up. I bet it's game over before you can drop that Breach.
I'd like to see a whole list so I can get someone to play it against me to see how it'd go if you've got one JNP.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 7:26AM
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Then the gob deck has to waste it's already low mana resources on the first two turns with removal rather than setting up their board position. This allows you to build up mana to either hardcast or play your own bolts or sweeps like pyroclasm  in response to their aggression. If they play gobs, then wait to play removal, you have established a foothold, and can again tap out in response to removal in order to play your own removal or protection peices like ranger's guile  . The point is you always have options, where as a gob aggro deck has very few. A quick list looks like this: 4x birds of paradise 4x arbor elf  4x llanowar elves 4x farseek 4x rampant growth  4x ulamog, the infinite gyre  4x emrakul, the aeons torn 4x faithless looting  4x farseek 4x rampant growth 4x through the breach 4x summoning trap 20x land Land could be a bit low, but tons of accelerators. Loot away what you don't need until you dig into what you do. Sideboard out some ramp elements for protection spells and play slower vs heavy removal decks. Primarily build should be all about combo'ing out ASAP. G2/3 make swaps as needed.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 3:51PM
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Aug 15, 2010
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Ok looks like a small conflict on what color use and land use. But overall looks like fixing the eldrazi deck is what everyone agrees on so i'll work on that on. Jnp's list looks good but can use some finalization and sideboard ideas no? Still conflicted on using posts+vesuvians vs mana dorks. With so many posts and fewer vesuvians, wouldnt getting color mana for removal and sweeps be less likely?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 5:51PM
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the reason i went with mana dorks is because 12 post is illegal in modern format. the rest of the list of course is up for tweaking, but the idea, i think, is sound
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4 months ago ::
Feb 01, 2013 - 10:35PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 15, 2010
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Alright, i'll put together that list and playtest to see what feels like it needs tweeking
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