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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 3:59PM #1
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 9:31PM #2
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Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave . . . spells were underestimated in Magic's early years, and now you underestimate dual lands. Severely underestimate them. Maybe after this five-and-a-half color format we're about to have winds down, you'll finally see what a big mistake the shocklands were, and we won't have to endure them a third time. 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2013 - 10:32PM #3
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Just reprint Blood Moon .  Bant Control suddenly looks a lot less threatening.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 12:02AM #4
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The 2nd and third combo captions are wrong. It should say Duskmantle Guildmage and Jace, Memory Adept / Vizkopa Guildmage and Exquisite Blood .

I also really like the Reckoner's design. It seems like a nonbo at first, but then you realize it's the best thing about it.

I have been thinking of a monoblack deck for standard, but there are just so many things you are cold to. And without Sphere of the Suns and the wellspring package that the previous standard had, I feel monoblack is too slow now.

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Nov 27, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 27, 2012 -- 12:26AM, BankaiMastery wrote:

Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.

The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.

I hope you all feel really smart now.

This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"


Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.


Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.


Nov 24, 2012 -- 8:07PM, felisdomesticus wrote:

Nov 24, 2012 -- 7:19PM, CherylCheryl wrote:

I wish more girls play magic cards...


Have you considered assassinating Kevin?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 1:14AM #5
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Jan 31, 2013 -- 9:31PM, crimson_sunrise wrote:

Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave . . . spells were underestimated in Magic's early years, and now you underestimate dual lands. Severely underestimate them. Maybe after this five-and-a-half color format we're about to have winds down, you'll finally see what a big mistake the shocklands were, and we won't have to endure them a third time. 




They're going to print some hate in whatever next fall's set is going to be. That's generally how it goes: you can have fun with your toys for a year, then some hate is printed so that the meta doesn't get stale.

Dec 1, 2010 -- 10:06AM, ProphetKing wrote:

Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 1:33AM #6
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Feb 1, 2013 -- 1:14AM, Zindaras wrote:

Jan 31, 2013 -- 9:31PM, crimson_sunrise wrote:

Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave . . . spells were underestimated in Magic's early years, and now you underestimate dual lands. Severely underestimate them. Maybe after this five-and-a-half color format we're about to have winds down, you'll finally see what a big mistake the shocklands were, and we won't have to endure them a third time. 




They're going to print some hate in whatever next fall's set is going to be. That's generally how it goes: you can have fun with your toys for a year, then some hate is printed so that the meta doesn't get stale.



Except when the graveyard is involved, cause they printed Grafdigger's Cage right after Innistrad, so fun strategies like self mill and Burning Vengeance withered way too soon.


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Nov 27, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 27, 2012 -- 12:26AM, BankaiMastery wrote:

Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.

The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.

I hope you all feel really smart now.

This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"


Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.


Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.


Nov 24, 2012 -- 8:07PM, felisdomesticus wrote:

Nov 24, 2012 -- 7:19PM, CherylCheryl wrote:

I wish more girls play magic cards...


Have you considered assassinating Kevin?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 1:35AM #7
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Feb 1, 2013 -- 1:33AM, Fenix. wrote:

Feb 1, 2013 -- 1:14AM, Zindaras wrote:

Jan 31, 2013 -- 9:31PM, crimson_sunrise wrote:

Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave . . . spells were underestimated in Magic's early years, and now you underestimate dual lands. Severely underestimate them. Maybe after this five-and-a-half color format we're about to have winds down, you'll finally see what a big mistake the shocklands were, and we won't have to endure them a third time. 




They're going to print some hate in whatever next fall's set is going to be. That's generally how it goes: you can have fun with your toys for a year, then some hate is printed so that the meta doesn't get stale.



Except when the graveyard is involved, cause they printed Grafdigger's Cage right after Innistrad, so fun strategies like self mill and Burning Vengeance withered way too soon.




Sometimes they do it quicker, yes (the green shatterstorm was also in Besieged, I think). On the other hand, I think it would be a bit mean to put hate in Gatecrash so that only the first five guilds would get to play around freely with their shocklands. And with Dragon's Maze having a very strong nonbasic theme, I doubt that hate will get printed there.

Dec 1, 2010 -- 10:06AM, ProphetKing wrote:

Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 2:32AM #8
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If your opponent wants to kill it, he or she has to block it with extra creatures or else you can just first strike one or more creatures away. If your opponent blocks it with enough things, then you simply don't give it first strike and your opponent takes a ton of damage.




So let me get this straight...

If your opponent wants to kill it, they have to block with something that can kill it. But if that happens, you might activate First Strike and kill one of his guys instead. But if he blocks with a ton, then you can just not give it First Strike and have it deal a "ton" of damage to him...

That seems like an incredibly roundabout way to do a potential 4 or so damage to your opponent. You know what else can do that? Boros Charm . You know what else can kill creatures smaller than itself? Almost everything.

Nope, this is still an awfully designed card with a counterproductive second ability. Give him the ability to block two creatures, make him unblockable by less than two creatures, something. With this, all you have is a 3/3 for 3 coloured mana that will get through every turn unless it becomes a problem. It's bad.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 3:13AM #9
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Feb 1, 2013 -- 2:32AM, Renasce wrote:

If your opponent wants to kill it, he or she has to block it with extra creatures or else you can just first strike one or more creatures away. If your opponent blocks it with enough things, then you simply don't give it first strike and your opponent takes a ton of damage.




So let me get this straight...

If your opponent wants to kill it, they have to block with something that can kill it. But if that happens, you might activate First Strike and kill one of his guys instead. But if he blocks with a ton, then you can just not give it First Strike and have it deal a "ton" of damage to him...

That seems like an incredibly roundabout way to do a potential 4 or so damage to your opponent. You know what else can do that? Boros Charm . You know what else can kill creatures smaller than itself? Almost everything.

Nope, this is still an awfully designed card with a counterproductive second ability. Give him the ability to block two creatures, make him unblockable by less than two creatures, something. With this, all you have is a 3/3 for 3 coloured mana that will get through every turn unless it becomes a problem. It's bad.




If your opponent blocks it with three 2/2's, it's best not to give it first strike. If he blocks it with two 2/2's, it is (or can be) best to give it first strike. The possibility of first strike gives it a nice extra ability that you can use strategically. I like it. It may not be the best card, but it doesn't have to be. It's an interesting one.


Dec 1, 2010 -- 10:06AM, ProphetKing wrote:

Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 01, 2013 - 3:32AM #10
Renasce
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Feb 1, 2013 -- 3:13AM, Zindaras wrote:

If your opponent blocks it with three 2/2's, it's best not to give it first strike. If he blocks it with two 2/2's, it is (or can be) best to give it first strike. The possibility of first strike gives it a nice extra ability that you can use strategically. I like it. It may not be the best card, but it doesn't have to be. It's an interesting one.




It might have been interesting with a high power and low toughness (E.g. 4/2), but as-is, it's easier to just not block it or kill it with a spell. If it was a genuine threat, I could see it, but as a 3/3, it's just kinda meh.

EDIT: Maybe if it was a 2/2 with activated Double Strike instead?

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