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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 6:14PM #1
Hakeem928
Date Joined: Oct 8, 2012
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I'd really like some advice on constructing a Gruul deck based around Splinterfright ; and before we continue, yes, I know Rest in Peace is a thing. I'll address that concern at the end of this post. I really like that Bloodrush dumps creatures in the graveyard and I think there's real synergy there with Splinterfright . When choosing cards for this deck, there are a few rules that I followed; either the card is a creature, or it has some utility if you place it in the graveyard ( Mulch is the only exception). Rancor is great, but if you mill it out it does nothing for you, so it doesn't make the list. Here are my thoughts on some cards that could make it into the deck.

Lands:

Kessig Wolf Run - Ghoultree will be in this deck.
Rogue's Passage - I think Kessig Wolf Run is strictly better in this deck, but this one is still worth a look.

CMC 1:

Faithless Looting - Dump two cards of your choosing in the graveyard on the first turn and dig deeper into your deck? With flashback? Yes please.
Vexing Devil - Get a creature in the graveyard on the first turn and cause four damage? That's another yes.
Legion Loyalist - Nice finishing move once a Ghoultree is in play; a decent option.
Ulvenwald Tracker - I want the deck to be fast, so I'm not sure if this guy is going to fit the theme, but he's too good not to consider. There will be some Ghoultree s in the deck, so removing key blockers could be a kind of pseudo-trample in this deck. We will see.

CMC 2:

Mulch - Very important in a deck like this.
Boneyard Wurm - With plenty of first-turn creature dumps, this guy could actually see play on turn two.
Dawntreader Elk - Not too bad, but I don't see the acceleration being necessary. I think I'd rather have a Bloodrush creature, but who knows.
Nightbird's Clutches - Potential finisher, but I'm not sure the deck can squeeze in too many non-creature spells overall; worth a look, though.
Wild Guess - A free dump and two extra cards? That's badass in this deck, but there are only so many non-creature slots available.

CMC 3:

Splinterfright - Did you see the name of the thread?
Shattered Perception - This card can make some bad draws very playable; intriguing card, I like it.
Gnaw to the Bone - I think this card is too good not to run, but again, there are only so many non-creature spells that can fit; if the deck's speed is there, this won't be necessary.
Slaughterhorn - Very cheap Bloodrush cost and decent bonus make it worthy of consideration.
Rummaging Goblin - I think it's much too slow to make the cut, but worth some mention.

CMC 4:

Ghor-Clan Rampager - Reasonable Bloodrush target due to his trample, and excellent Bloodrush cost should you discard him; looks good to me.
Scorchwalker - Hit a Splinterfright with that Bloodrush for +6/+2! Wow.
Huntmaster of the Fells - I'm playing Gruul, how could I not consider this guy? Not sure he fits, however.
Deadbridge Goliath - This guy has above-curve P/T and you can still get value if you mill him out; seems good to me.
Cinder Elemental - A creature body goes great in the graveyard, and he can hit to the face for the win pretty cheaply; there's potential here, especially when faced with Rest in Peace . Potential maindeck, definite sideboard.

CMC 5:

Wrecking Ogre - Bloodrush that on a Splinterfright and say gg; I like it.
Zhur-Taa Swine - Excellent Bloodrush value for the price; Splinterfright gets +6/+5 for !
Kessig Cagebreakers - You swing and you win; what's wrong with that? Also you can Bloodrush any unblocked wolf for tons of face damage.
Creeping Renaissance - Too slow for the deck, I think, but still worth a look.

CMC 6+:

Ghoultree - This guy is going in, the only question is how many of him.
Rubblehulk - Very good Bloodrush cost, but the creature version doesn't have trample and at six mana I don't want that creature; makes the deck solely for Bloodrush value. Two copies, maybe?
Increasing Savagery - Very good value for four mana, and flashback potential if you mill it; I think this is strictly better than Skarrg Goliath at the top of the curve (at that point in the game, Sorcery speed shouldn't matter too much), but neither is really good enough for the main deck.
Devil's Play - A finisher if you draw it, and decent value if you mill it; worth a look. I know the CMC is technically one, but 6+ is where you're actually going to cast it.
Grim Flowering - Hard not to mention, because drawing that many cards will allow you to discard a lot of them; but I think it's much too slow for the deck overall.

Preliminary Decklist:

4 x Stomping Ground
4 x Rootbound Crag
8 x Mountain
5 x Forest
3 x Kessig Wolf Run

4 x Vexing Devil
4 x Splinterfright
3 x Scorchwalker
3 x Ghor-Clan Rampager
3 x Wrecking Ogre
3 x Kessig Cagebreakers
2 x Rubblehulk
3 x Ghoultree

4 x Faithless Looting
4 x Mulch
3 x Shattered Perception

As for Rest in Peace , I can't think of an answer outside of four copies of Ray of Revelation and some Shimmering Grotto s to make it castable from your hand.

Thoughts?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 6:45PM #2
p0p3l1n3ss
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2010
Posts: 421
Sundering growth for enchant/artifact hate. Possibly naturalize
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 6:51PM #3
re4leonkennedy
Date Joined: Nov 1, 2009
Posts: 1,164
Your curve's really high for creatures. You don't really get anything that stays on the battlefield until turn 3. Doesn't really give you much to bloodrush early on and makes your deck pretty slow. Zhur-twa swine is going to be be more useful than rubblehulk a lot of the time. Zhur-twa swine's bloodrush is better when you have 3 or 4 lands out and isn't much different than rubblehulks's when you have 5 lands out. Zhur-twa swine is a better bloodrusher than scorchwalker if you're using scorchwalker mainly for bloodthirst which you should be. Fling also seems fun for this deck. Goes really well with Ghoultree,bloodrush, splinterfright, etc. I would recommend checking out my "casual bloodrush" thread as I also tried to make a deck with splinterfright and bloodrush. It was more bloodrush focused than splinterfright focused, but I think there could be a good decklist somewhere in between your decklist and mine.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 6:52PM #4
1FlamingWalnut1
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2012
Posts: 168
Acidic Slime can take out enchantments and it is a creature. A nice one at that. But it is a bit slow. :/ And other than splashing white for Keening Apparition , War Priest of Thune or the above mentioned Ray, you don't have much that fits your bill of creature or useable from the graveyard. :/ 

The deck looks nice though. Bloodrusk and Splinterfright is a pretty sexy mix, if I do say so myself. 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 6:55PM #5
DarkArtist711
Date Joined: Oct 31, 2005
Posts: 625

Beatya to it.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 1:01PM #6
Hakeem928
Date Joined: Oct 8, 2012
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Well how about this, then:

4 x Stomping Ground
4 x Rootbound Crag
8 x Mountain
5 x Forest
3 x Kessig Wolf Run

4 x Vexing Devil
4 x Boneyard Wurm
4 x Splinterfright
4 x Ghor-Clan Rampager
3 x Wrecking Ogre
3 x Zhur-Taa Swine
3 x Ghoultree

4 x Faithless Looting
4 x Mulch
3 x Shattered Perception

I lowered the creature curve by adding Boneyard Wurm s in place of the Kessig Cagebreakers , and went to the max with Ghor-Clan Rampager because he's just awesome. I removed the Scorchwalker s and Rubblehulk s and replaced  them with a few Zhur-Taa Swine .

How does everyone feel about Shattered Perception in this deck? I think it has potential, but I haven't tested anything yet so I have no data. Thoughts on this card?

Also, how do you feel about the manabase? Do I need 24 lands in this deck, or could that be cut down a bit, considering the possibility of overcoming flood/screw by casting either Faithless Looting or Shattered Perception ?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 9:42PM #7
Hakeem928
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bump
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 4:21AM #8
DarkArtist711
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Idk about perception but reforge the soul could be fun

   
   
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 4:23AM #9
Hakeem928
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Well, I don't like the idea of a card that I can't use from my graveyard. I'll proxy it to test, however.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 12:09PM #10
Hakeem928
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Are there no other suggestions? Does the deck seem viable?
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