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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 4:47PM #11
Doaj
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I'm going to have to agree with BiNexus; Orzhov Charm is severely underrated.  On that note, Boros Charm is overrated.  It's good, don't get me wrong, but it's not the be-all-end-all of Charms like everyone is treating it.  I'd rank it at 4-5, personally.   Aurelia's Fury is going to be insane, but I feel like it might not be as insane as everyone thinks.  It's no Bonfire afterall.  

I think Razortip Whip might be pretty underrated in Limited.  It's not a great card, but it's quite solid in Orzhov decks.   
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 5:03PM #12
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Jan 28, 2013 -- 2:43PM, Adroitmind@gmail.com wrote:

I feel like Firemane Avenger is better than her $4 price tag. Free lightning helix is good. Combine her with a couple of  Bomber Corps on a battlaion strike and that's 5 ponts of free damage. Ouch!



Firemane Avenger is in the Boros intro deck, which explains it's relatively low pricetag.

Extort in general seems underrated.  It definitely played better than I thought it would at the prerelease.  Blind Obedience seems undervalued, and Kingpin's Pet is a limited workhorse.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 5:12PM #13
Doaj
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Jan 28, 2013 -- 5:03PM, RxPhantom wrote:

Jan 28, 2013 -- 2:43PM, Adroitmind@gmail.com wrote:

I feel like Firemane Avenger is better than her $4 price tag. Free lightning helix is good. Combine her with a couple of  Bomber Corps on a battlaion strike and that's 5 ponts of free damage. Ouch!



Firemane Avenger is in the Boros intro deck, which explains it's relatively low pricetag.

Extort in general seems underrated.  It definitely played better than I thought it would at the prerelease.  Blind Obedience seems undervalued, and Kingpin's Pet is a limited workhorse.




THANK YOU!   Kingpin's Pet is one of my two favorite cards of the set, along with Clan Defiance (which also feels underrated).  It's a Wind Drake with Extort.  Seriously, beating for two in addition to Extort damage is going to be very, very powerful.  No, it won't drop until T4, but with cards like Blind Obedience and Tragic Slip and Killing Wave to keep the field clear, I don't see a problem.  I can't wait to build a standard Extort deck.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 5:25PM #14
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Jan 28, 2013 -- 4:47PM, Doaj wrote:

I'm going to have to agree with BiNexus; Orzhov Charm is severely underrated.  On that note, Boros Charm is overrated.  It's good, don't get me wrong, but it's not the be-all-end-all of Charms like everyone is treating it.  I'd rank it at 4-5, personally.   Aurelia's Fury is going to be insane, but I feel like it might not be as insane as everyone thinks.  It's no Bonfire afterall.  

I think Razortip Whip might be pretty underrated in Limited.  It's not a great card, but it's quite solid in Orzhov decks.   



When I was making my post, I heavily considered throwing Boros Charm in with Fury but I just couldn't bring myself to. I see it as an auto-include 3-4 of in x tempo decks, not only in standard but Modern and maybe the eternal formats as well. But its uses don't end in tempo as it's a great card in aggro and midranged. It's a 2 mana spell that just does work at all times. I don't think it's the best charm, but it's a real boon for its colours and that's why people are giving it so much attention.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 10:31PM #15
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Totally Lost was underrated, I think, going into prerelease. It looked overcosted, but in limited, with not a ton of removal, it really threw my game off a number of times when it hit me.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 11:42PM #16
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Jan 28, 2013 -- 3:17PM, Magicmeow wrote:

Glaring Spotlight might be a little bit underrated, because many people ignoring its second ability and just see the hexproof hate.

Aurelia's Fury is a little bit overrated imho. By no means a bad card but not worth its current price tag.
And Duskmantle Seer ... sorry I just don't see it. No pun intended.




I think you are spot on with Glaring Spotlight. If you treat it as a turn 4-5 play instead of turn 1, there's a lot of value in making your board hexproof and unblockable mid-game.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 28, 2013 - 11:59PM #17
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Jan 28, 2013 -- 5:03PM, RxPhantom wrote:

Jan 28, 2013 -- 2:43PM, Adroitmind@gmail.com wrote:

I feel like Firemane Avenger is better than her $4 price tag. Free lightning helix is good. Combine her with a couple of  Bomber Corps on a battlaion strike and that's 5 ponts of free damage. Ouch!



Firemane Avenger is in the Boros intro deck, which explains it's relatively low pricetag.

Extort in general seems underrated.  It definitely played better than I thought it would at the prerelease.  Blind Obedience seems undervalued, and Kingpin's Pet is a limited workhorse.



Agreed with Obedience, it is good against many of the best threats of this current metagame; Thundermaw Hellkite , Falkenrath Aristocrat , Hellrider , Lightning Mauler ... and even makes blinking Obzedat, Ghost Council not always a good idea.

I think people underrate Dimir Charm . It is quite good.

Not really overrated, but some think the new Gideon has a chance, but it doesn't, it's completely worthless.


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 12:20AM #18
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Consuming Aberration is the tits
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 12:33AM #19
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most dimir cards (especially ones with cipher) are underrated. In a control setting big cipher cards like stolen identity or whispering madness won't be played on turn 6... instead it will be played in the window of opportunity that makes you almost certain you'll get 2 cast that turn and more out of it later, (say you just cleared their field and their mana is all tapped or they just use all their mana to draw a bunch of cards). In that case many of the cards are a catch. 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 12:39AM #20
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I think Prime Speaker Zegana is slightly under-valued atm...I mean $7-9? When I played her (sealed of course) along side Fathom Mage things got silly. I was drawing 4-7 cards a shot...if they tried to remove her I just used Bioshift to put her counters on the mage...another 3-6 cards please. Granted this was sealed but Prime Speaker is as close to a titan as we are going to get...she easily comes down on turn 5 to draw 4-6 cards.
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