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The only triggered ability Blind Obedience possesses is Extort.

Triggered abilities start with (or have a clause that starts with) When, Whenever or At. None of those words appear in the text of Blind Obedience. Therefore that abiluity is not a triggered ability.

You may not forget to apply the ability.

Jan 28, 2013 -- 6:43AM, CPF11 wrote:

I am looking for a easy rule of thumb for the new trigger policy and then apply it to Blind Obedience.

Extort is an optional trigger.

At all REL's, you have to remember them before you take any other action (eg. passing priority by saying "go" or saying "attackers?" or casting another spell)

Triggered abilities are considered to be forgotten by their controller once they have taken an action past the point where the triggered ability would be expected to resolve.

The other ability is NOT a triggered ability.
It's a static ability that generates a replacement effect.

At all REL's, you and your opponent are required to observe the rules

if your opponent forgets, you can either:
A) remind him or
B) call a judge (he'll probably get a warning, if it continues the judge could upgrade the penalty)

given that the static ability is controlled by you (his opponent), the judge will likely be more lenient 
it's also possible that you might also get a warning (the judge's way of saying "remind him yourself, don't bug me")

check out section 2.5 of the IPC

In a situation where the effect that caused the infraction is controlled by one player, but the illegal action is taken by another player, both receive a Game Play Error – Game Rule Violation

If your opponent controls the Blind Obedience, then he should remind you (or call a judge)
if he notices later, he can call a judge to get the game state corrected (you'll have to tap it) and you'll both likely get warnings
if the judge believes that you intentionally ignored the effect, you'll get DQ'ed for cheating

Jan 28, 2013 -- 6:43AM, CPF11 wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a easy rule of thumb for the new trigger policy and then apply it to Blind Obedience.

For triggers is this correct:

1) I have to announce all my own triggers or they do not happen. Are they missed as soon as I pass priority - how long do I have to announce them?

This is true at higher levels of play, but not at Regular REL (like FNM or the Prerelease event) and definitely not at the kitchen table. Remember that the IPG does not apply to Regular REL (It does set a precedent, but the rules are more lax).

2) I do not have to announce or take any action in response to my opponents triggers unless I want them to happen or the opponent announces them.

At Regular REL, you are required to remind your opponent of his triggers. The above is true only in Competitive and Professional.

3) I cannot cheat and miss("forget") my own deterimental triggers when I notice them. They have to happen and I need to announce them.

Correct, although this applies to all triggers, not just detrimental ones. Even so, it's unlikely that you're going to be disqualified if you forget to gain one life or something.

An Example with Blind Obedience; I cast a creature spell that resolves and enters the battlefield while my opponent has Blind Obedience in play. I put the creature in play untapped, on purpose - knowing the Blind Obedience is in play, and unless my opponent announces their Blind Obedience trigger my creature stays untapped. Is this within the rules at REL and I will receive no penalties right?

Thanks,

-Chris-

This would be considered cheating, and you could be disqualified ( Blind Obedience's tap thing is not a triggered ability, but let's assume it is for the sake of example).

It's very controversial Chaikov, but that is the current policy (emphasis on GENERALLY detrimental - the word "beneficial" does not exist anywhere)

The current game state is not taken into consideration. For example, Dark Confidant and Duskmantle Seer  are not considered "generally detrimental" -  even if it's your opponent's turn. If a trigger that is -not- generally detrimental to its controller is missed, if it's caught within a turn the opponent gets to decide whether or not it's placed on the bottom of the stack. As usual though, if it's a "may" ability it's assumed it was not used, and if there's a default action ("if you don't... X") we just resolve the default action - think Pact of Negation .

As has been mentioned here, Blind Obedience only has one triggered ability - Extort. Knowing about Obedience being in play and intentionally putting your creatures into play untapped could net you a Disqualification at CompREL+ - at FNMs, you'll usually get a slap on the wrist and be informed that even if it was a trigger, both players are responsible for all triggers at Regular REL as the primary goals are to educate and have fun.

1) re: static abilities - They do not need to be announced, but they must be acknowledged. You don't have to tell your opponent how big your Tarmogoyf is at CompREL but you also can't lie about its P/T. Both players are responsible for ensuring all game rules are followed, and all static abilities are taken into account.


1) re: Triggers - You must demonstrate awareness of triggered abilities you control. A trigger is considered missed once you take an action past the point at which it would trigger. For example, if you miss a Transform trigger and just draw a card, you have gone past your Upkeep step and have missed the trigger. Tapping lands isn't necessarily a sign of advancing past a missed trigger. But, say... Casting another spell, or offering to move to the next step after sticking a Thragtusk might be.

2) You are not responsible for ANY of your opponent's missed triggers at CompREL - only triggers you control. If your opponent misses a trigger you have the length of a turn to call attention to it if you want it put on the stack. If it is not generally detrimental, a may ability, or have an "unless ... or if you don't ..." clause in it, you have the option to put it on the bottom of the stack. Reading the most recent Infraction Procedure Guide is the best way to learn about the current Missed Trigger policies. There are a lot of things to cover.

3) Correct, though the rules make no mention of "beneficial" triggers. You will get at least a Warning for missing a "generally detrimental" trigger, and then the trigger will be placed on the stack. Intentionally ignoring your triggers (unless they're "may" abilities) will likely get you DQed.