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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 7:17AM #51
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So ho do these basic-land-replacing Guildgates and Shocklands work in Limited? Can you use them in your deck? Do you still take them out before passing the pack in Draft?

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Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 7:26AM #52
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 7:17AM, LMTRK wrote:

So ho do these basic-land-replacing Guildgates and Shocklands work in Limited? Can you use them in your deck? Do you still take them out before passing the pack in Draft?

~ Tim 


I'm assuming we just leave it in as you would a foil card. It will definitely make draft much more interesting. I foresee myself holding up the entire draft because I'll end up being the guy who pulls 3 Rares in my first booster. I'm also wondering if the Lands still have an opportunity to show up in the rest of the commons. I'd love to pull a shock for both my rare and land card. But eventually the price of shocks are gonna go way down and it'll become a waste of a booster.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 8:26AM #53
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 6:11AM, waterbury95 wrote:

I read in a thread the other day that the Dragon's Maze card is a probably a shock land that can tap for all 5 colors... If that's true then that's a card which would actually make a huge difference in standard. Say I'm playing Simic and I have 4 Breeding Pool and 4 of whatever this new shock might be, I might as well just be playing 8 Breeding Pools in one deck. Sounds like a powerful land base to me.



That would actually be incredibly interesting. If it had all land types as well it would make waves in all formats.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 8:47AM #54
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 7:17AM, LMTRK wrote:

So ho do these basic-land-replacing Guildgates and Shocklands work in Limited? Can you use them in your deck? Do you still take them out before passing the pack in Draft?

~ Tim 



I thought they made this change with limited in mind. At least it will make your deck mana base much more consistent on the pre release events.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 2:16PM #55
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 8:26AM, BiNexus wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 6:11AM, waterbury95 wrote:

I read in a thread the other day that the Dragon's Maze card is a probably a shock land that can tap for all 5 colors... If that's true then that's a card which would actually make a huge difference in standard. Say I'm playing Simic and I have 4 Breeding Pool and 4 of whatever this new shock might be, I might as well just be playing 8 Breeding Pools in one deck. Sounds like a powerful land base to me.



That would actually be incredibly interesting. If it had all land types as well it would make waves in all formats.




It would also be more expensive than Tarmogoyf and Jace combined. Even if it cost 5 life.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 5:14PM #56
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 2:16PM, Moxxy wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 8:26AM, BiNexus wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 6:11AM, waterbury95 wrote:

I read in a thread the other day that the Dragon's Maze card is a probably a shock land that can tap for all 5 colors... If that's true then that's a card which would actually make a huge difference in standard. Say I'm playing Simic and I have 4 Breeding Pool and 4 of whatever this new shock might be, I might as well just be playing 8 Breeding Pools in one deck. Sounds like a powerful land base to me.



That would actually be incredibly interesting. If it had all land types as well it would make waves in all formats.




It would also be more expensive than Tarmogoyf and Jace combined. Even if it cost 5 life.




Eventually maybe, because people would always be buying playsets as it replaces any of the other shocklands. But not if it came with the cost of 5 life; to pay 6 life (Zendikar fetch+it coming untapped) for immediately useable mana is preeeetty steep.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2013 - 5:45PM #57
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People would still play it, and Amulet of Vigor would rocket overnight.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 12:01PM #58
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 5:14PM, BiNexus wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 2:16PM, Moxxy wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 8:26AM, BiNexus wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 6:11AM, waterbury95 wrote:

I read in a thread the other day that the Dragon's Maze card is a probably a shock land that can tap for all 5 colors... If that's true then that's a card which would actually make a huge difference in standard. Say I'm playing Simic and I have 4 Breeding Pool and 4 of whatever this new shock might be, I might as well just be playing 8 Breeding Pools in one deck. Sounds like a powerful land base to me.



That would actually be incredibly interesting. If it had all land types as well it would make waves in all formats.




It would also be more expensive than Tarmogoyf and Jace combined. Even if it cost 5 life.




Eventually maybe, because people would always be buying playsets as it replaces any of the other shocklands. But not if it came with the cost of 5 life; to pay 6 life (Zendikar fetch+it coming untapped) for immediately useable mana is preeeetty steep.




You wouldn't fetch for it though.  You'd fetch specifically for a color you need.  This has the bonus of always being the right color in your opening hand, and 5 life is not a lot to pay.  I use Dash Hopes a lot in casual play and you'd be surprised to see the things people are willing to pay 5 life to keep.  Not to mention, letting it come in tapped T1 means every color turn 2, and no life loss.

In fact, even if it always came in tapped, providing all five colors would be worthwhile in a lot of decks.  With basic land types, it'd still be $30+. 

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 5:49PM #59
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Feb 5, 2013 -- 8:26AM, BiNexus wrote:

Feb 5, 2013 -- 6:11AM, waterbury95 wrote:

I read in a thread the other day that the Dragon's Maze card is a probably a shock land that can tap for all 5 colors... If that's true then that's a card which would actually make a huge difference in standard. Say I'm playing Simic and I have 4 Breeding Pool and 4 of whatever this new shock might be, I might as well just be playing 8 Breeding Pools in one deck. Sounds like a powerful land base to me.



That would actually be incredibly interesting. If it had all land types as well it would make waves in all formats.



Not Commander.  A land with every basic land type wouldn't be able to be played in a deck that wasn't five colors.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2013 - 7:56PM #60
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So, on MTGsalvation they seem to be sure that the mythic land in DGM is a wincon when you have 10 gates. Sounds like something wizards would do...
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