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Jan 29, 2013 -- 9:19AM, bay_falconer wrote:

Grandma lives in Savannah then?

Clearly, "Grandma" is Paula Deen.  Next they'll make functional reprint G/W/R triple fetchland named "Emeril's BAM-o-rama"

But on a serious note, I think the only real roadblock in the way of them changing the reprint policy is the card stores.  If enough retailers stand to make enough money selling enough NEW dual lands, moxen, etc, then it's gotta be on the table.  They could easliy just give it a lot of lead time and then, say, release a "Vintage Masters" limited print run set that has all the power 9 as Mythics, plus probably Time Vault, Mishra's Workshop, Bazaar of Bagdad, etc.  Then put the reprinted dual lands in there as the chase rares, along with some other broken old stuff like Armagheddon, Channel, Fastbond, etc.  The only question is what to put in as commons and uncommons to make the set draftable.  I think the trick would be to only sell the set via card stores where magic is actually played by patrtons, not through online sources or WalMart etc.  If they did that the card shops would love them.   I guess maybe you'd have to make the "Vintage Masters" product some kind of prize for entering/finishing well in tournaments at stores.

Jan 29, 2013 -- 8:01AM, skeindubh wrote:

Modern sucks pretty hard with its policy of banning whatever won last.

Jan 29, 2013 -- 10:08AM, CarbonatedSoda wrote:

It sucks for the legacy players who don't want to have to move to Modern but are basically being forced to because some angry collectors/sellers will throw temper tantrums because their investment is no longer a garuntee.

This is a point with which I'm very concerned.

I've tended to think that while the bannings in Modern are overblown, that's mainly an annoyance for people who own copies of Chrome Mox , Jace, the Mind Sculptor , and so on, and aren't seeing the values of those cards rising - even though the values of the Reserved List cards keep rising.

And, so, I've taken at face value the surface rationale that the bannings are serving the useful purpose of making Modern a balanced format that's fun to play.

Recently, though, I've seen some stuff in other threads, discussing the recent bannings of Bloodbraid Elf and Seething Song in Modern, that have caused me to seriously question this in one specific aspect. Basically, Bloodbraid Elf was banned because Jund was too dominant. OK, I remember that, and I can understand it. Seething Song, though, like Chrome Mox, was a card I'd rather not see banned - and one post noted that the rationale there was that certain other decks would now run rampant with Jund out of the way because control is not viable in Modern.

Lockdown decks may be unfun, but when you chop a slice out of the metagame clock, your chances of having a balanced metagame have taken a major dive downwards.

So what Modern is not, apparently, is a big boy's format without the big bucks. Which prevents it from really being Legacy For The Rest Of Us or even close. I'm sorry, but I'm not happy about this.

If Masques-forward with fewer bannings isn't different enough from Modern, then Legacy with the whole Reserved List banned would be even better anyways, and by now Wizards shouldn't be embarassed to admit that the Reserved List is an issue any more.

Jan 29, 2013 -- 11:33PM, Renasce wrote:

*couldn't

Nah. "I could care less" can be literally true, with the implication that I couldn't care much less.

So this isn't like the "misuse" of "literally" (which I, for that matter, view as legitimate hyperbole).

Jan 29, 2013 -- 2:12PM, quadibloc wrote:

Jan 29, 2013 -- 8:01AM, skeindubh wrote:

Modern sucks pretty hard with its policy of banning whatever won last.

Jan 29, 2013 -- 10:08AM, CarbonatedSoda wrote:

It sucks for the legacy players who don't want to have to move to Modern but are basically being forced to because some angry collectors/sellers will throw temper tantrums because their investment is no longer a garuntee.

This is a point with which I'm very concerned.

I've tended to think that while the bannings in Modern are overblown, that's mainly an annoyance for people who own copies of Chrome Mox , Jace, the Mind Sculptor , and so on, and aren't seeing the values of those cards rising - even though the values of the Reserved List cards keep rising.

And, so, I've taken at face value the surface rationale that the bannings are serving the useful purpose of making Modern a balanced format that's fun to play.

Recently, though, I've seen some stuff in other threads, discussing the recent bannings of Bloodbraid Elf and Seething Song in Modern, that have caused me to seriously question this in one specific aspect. Basically, Bloodbraid Elf was banned because Jund was too dominant. OK, I remember that, and I can understand it. Seething Song, though, like Chrome Mox, was a card I'd rather not see banned - and one post noted that the rationale there was that certain other decks would now run rampant with Jund out of the way because control is not viable in Modern.

Lockdown decks may be unfun, but when you chop a slice out of the metagame clock, your chances of having a balanced metagame have taken a major dive downwards.

So what Modern is not, apparently, is a big boy's format without the big bucks. Which prevents it from really being Legacy For The Rest Of Us or even close. I'm sorry, but I'm not happy about this.

If Masques-forward with fewer bannings isn't different enough from Modern, then Legacy with the whole Reserved List banned would be even better anyways, and by now Wizards shouldn't be embarassed to admit that the Reserved List is an issue any more.

Hasn't Jace doubled in price the last few months?  I remember recently you could get it around 50 or 60.  Now its at 100.

The bannings are so that people don't just default to the old powerful decks, so people don't complain again about not being good enough to beat the deck they were not good enough to beat before, and so that the format becomes balanced and people start making different decks rather than just copy the same deck and everyone plays it.

As soon as people start brewing for modern and make new interesting decks, and the tournaments start playing a variety of decks, then they will stop banning and start unbanning.

Jan 30, 2013 -- 7:21AM, Renasce wrote:

But if you could care less, then you have said absolutely nothing.

You are overlooking two factors.

1. When humans speak, as opposed to typing on a keyboard, facial expression and intonation can convey information on their intentions in addition to that conveyed by the literal meaning of their words.
2. Furthermore, most human languages contain idiomatic phrases. That is, a specific sequence of words can have a meaning over and above their specific literal meaning in that language in the same way that a word can have a meaning different from what its etymology suggests its meaning should be.