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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:05PM
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Well Bloodbraid Elf  and Seething Song  got banned. Any thoughts?
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:15PM
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As somebody who was playtesting his newly built storm deck, I can safely assure the DCI that I am very unhappy that I got hit by a ban out of left field.
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:16PM
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Well Jund was rather dominant and hard to fight, and Storm was an easy turn 3 kill and no one likes a turn 3 kill.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:19PM
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Yes! Take that Jund and Naya, and everything else my RG Tron deck has ever lost against. Storm takes a big hit without Seething Song . In fact, I'm not even sure it'll be viable anymore. I've proxy tested some weird Past in Flames  Storm decks before, but I've never really played Storm extensively enough to know how it'll cope without its biggest mana accelerator. As for Bloodbraid Elf , while it will hinder Jund and other RG aggro decks, I don't think it'll kill them. Jund will miss its free turn three/four thing, but I think it can survive without it, though it makes me think there might be a influx of    Junk decks. Overall, I think they did a good job on the bannings. Not sure if Storm needed it, but Jund was getting out of hand.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:25PM
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Honestly Bloodbraid was the only value Jund card, the rest were 1-for-1s except for a few sweepers that required over extension to 1-for-X.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:27PM
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The biggest problem is it is the middle of PTQ season with Modern, and many of us 9me and some of my friends) have bought and play tested these decks and cards and now have to pick new decks or totally revamp them with like a week before our PTQ, that is just dumb. Seething song is insane to ban, and even though I can understand BBE, I think they need to wait until the season is over. Storm is only represented so high on MTGO b/c it is fairly cheap, it is not played nearly as much irl.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:38PM
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I think the reason for Song to be banned was that BBE was banned. Without the large amount of Jund in the format, a multi-card combo deck would be pretty tough to keep under wraps without counterspells actually being played. It's more pre-emptive than anything. BBE needed to go away just because Jund is too good. It's literally the only card in the deck they could ban without getting spalsh damage. That doesn't mean the deck is going to go away or be unplayable. The deck is still going to be fine. They'll just have to play something else in the 4-drop slot that gives you value. Huntmaster of the Fells  comes to mind, and I have already seen a few Jund lists with it in addition to the BBE. All-in-all, I would have preferred that they unban something to try to keep Jund in check. Giving the format something that made control decks viable would have done the trick, but instead they went a different route. I think the format is still going to be fine. It's still a work in progress, but they're going in the right direction.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 27, 2013 - 9:40PM
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I think the reason for Song to be banned was that BBE was banned. Without the large amount of Jund in the format, a multi-card combo deck would be pretty tough to keep under wraps without counterspells actually being played. It's more pre-emptive than anything.
BBE needed to go away just because Jund is too good. It's literally the only card in the deck they could ban without getting spalsh damage. That doesn't mean the deck is going to go away or be unplayable. The deck is still going to be fine. They'll just have to play something else in the 4-drop slot that gives you value. Huntmaster of the Fells comes to mind, and I have already seen a few Jund lists with it in addition to the BBE.
All-in-all, I would have preferred that they unban something to try to keep Jund in check. Giving the format something that made control decks viable would have done the trick, but instead they went a different route. I think the format is still going to be fine. It's still a work in progress, but they're going in the right direction.
Huntsmaster fills the 2RG slot BBE left and "cascades" into a 2/2 and 2 life. No haste a -1/-0 might break the deal though.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 28, 2013 - 1:07AM
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BBE makes sense and is a big loss for Jund. I still think it's a really strong deck without being able to Cascade into Goyf, Bob, Pulse, and/or Lingering Souls.
As for Seething Song, I don't know about that one. It seems a bit suspect. Madadmiral's assessment of it being a preemptive ban makes sense, but I don't necessarily agree with it. Then again the deck I play (a modified version of pigknight's zombies list) has very little problem with storm so I don't care about them having Seething song.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 28, 2013 - 1:40AM
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Giving the format something that made control decks viable would have done the trick, but instead they went a different route.
But control decks are unfun!
Since Modern, IIRC, is allowed at FNM events now, I guess I can't blame Wizards for treating it like Standard instead of like (dare I say) a "serious" format, i.e. Legacy. But since the groundswell of popular demand for Modern came from people wanting a Legacy-style experience without buying all the original duels - not from people dissatisfied with the state of Extended, which was in any event treated as a serious format - I'm still disappointed.
Control decks are an important slice of the metagame clock; without them in a format, it's much more difficult to have a balanced metagame where multiple deck archetypes are playable.
Coming up with weird ideas to make everyone happy since 2008!  I have now started a blog as an appropriate place to put my crazy ideas.
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