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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:03AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2011
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So I cast Lightning Bolt  , retain priority, and copy it with Izzet guildmage  . If after I pass priority someone counters the original Bolt does this have any affect on the copy? I don't think so, but it came up and we were not 100%
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:05AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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yes, the activated ability of the Guildmage will be countered because it targets the original Lightning Bolt
if you had the mana you could respond to their counterspell and copy it again by activating Guildmage again
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:07AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2011
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That makes sense. The copy does not exist until the ability resolves, and it no longer has a target.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:17AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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note: for the triggered ability created by Chandra, the Firebrand  's second ability which doesn't target, it would create a copy of Lightning Bolt from last known info (LKI) if someone countered the Bolt in response
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Goth/Industrial/EBM/Indie/Alternative/80's-Wave DJDJ VortexDCI Certified Rules Advisor from July 14, 2009 to July 14, 2012 DCI #5209514320 Wit found in Rules Q&ARPJesus: "Man, screw the rules, I'll play a game of 2HG Archenemy Planechase Emperor EDH draft yet. Once I figure out the rules for it..." Chaikov: "Of course, casual Magic may be played any way your Pokemon group agrees on..." and "It's not logic. It's Magic!" GainsBanding: "I only play online. The Magic Online shuffler is AWESOME!" Ikegami: "one might think [adult cats] would make excellent tokens. The issue, though, is that they are very hard to exile. They return to the battlefield more often than an undying creature." Astarael7: "Does 121.1 imply that players are supposed to wear their poison counters?" Bimmerbot: "If you move the wrong way and [the poison counters] fall, it's a game rule violation" Helluminatus: "Just remember, if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but the oracle text says creature - Bunny , then by god, it's a bunny." MadCow21: "Who are you and what have you done with the real Chaikov?" My Wife's Makeup Artist Page <-- cool stuff - check it out
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