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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:04PM
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None of you have ever even played with Cipher before. How can you already say it's overcosted?
Its actually very easy to do: "Cipher is overcosted."
Fixing cipher requires we -1 to all mana costs.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:17PM
#12
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None of you have ever even played with Cipher before. How can you already say it's overcosted?
Its actually very easy to do: "Cipher is overcosted."
Fixing cipher requires we -1 to all mana costs.
Hi guys, can I come out to play now? :D 
Yep, that's right. Totally calling Grixis control.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 1:30PM
#13
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fixing cipher... -2 colorless mana for each cipher spell, and ban invisible stalkers in standard.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 7:33PM
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None of you have ever even played with Cipher before. How can you already say it's overcosted?
Its actually very easy to do: "Cipher is overcosted."
Fixing cipher requires we -1 to all mana costs.
Hi guys, can I come out to play now? :D
Yep, that's right. Totally calling Grixis control.
ooooh... sexy. That might be really fun.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 7:39PM
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None of you have ever even played with Cipher before. How can you already say it's overcosted?
Its actually very easy to do: "Cipher is overcosted."
Fixing cipher requires we -1 to all mana costs.
Hi guys, can I come out to play now? :D
Yep, that's right. Totally calling Grixis control.
Because there's nothing control likes more than playing cheap creatures and attacking with them.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 7:40PM
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Also Hypersonic Dragon  . Poor man's Thundermaw Hellkite  + instant speed cipher = good deal
Standard Pauper!
(play it on MTGO)
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 7:41PM
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The main problem is that cipher is costed for how broken it can be in constructed, while everyone is just looking at it in the limited format at this point.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 8:15PM
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Cipher is at least 2 castings of a spell if played right and it makes your opponent use removal on weaker creatures To prevent that, instant speed would be preferred though. I'm waiting for a cipher spell for index, 1uu (or just uu) look at the top 5 and rearrange.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 9:13PM
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Don't forget, some things  also care about the number of spells cast  as much as whatever their effects may be.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 9:28PM
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Don't forget, some things also care about the number of spells cast as much as whatever their effects may be.
huh. you're right, nivmagus can take it lol
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