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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 3:36PM #1
HonorBasquiat
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2012
Posts: 519
Introduction

Hong Kong is a white deck with red support that overwhelms the board with numerous amounts of creatures and tokens. Hong Kong wins games by abusing creature enter the battlefield effects that make our creatures stronger and gain us ridiculous amounts life along with restricting our opponents' options. 

While this deck is Modern legal it is a fun deck to play that is budget friendly and designed for kitchen table casual matches. The deck performs well in both casual versus and multiplayer games but tends to work better in the latter. The deck's name is based on the colors of the Hong Kong flag (White and Red).

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These three cards are the primary stars of this deck. Champion of the Parish  gets freakishly huge very quickly due to the synergy this deck has.  Norin the Wary  constantly re enters the battlefield which allows us to make  Champion of the Parish  stronger among many other things (more on that later). Genesis Chamber  creates an enormous army for us due to the constant flickering of Norin the Wary .

   

These four creatures support the deck. Soul Warden  and Soul's Attendant  are fantastic because not only do they help us gain a lot of life traditionally, but in this deck, the lifegain really becomes absurd due to the tokens from Genesis Chamber  and the constant flickering of Norin the Wary . Soul Warden  and Soul's Attendant  are also humans which means they synergize well with Champion of the Parish . While Suture Priest  is not a human, he helps us gain even more life and dramatically hinders our opponents because of the tokens they will be forced to spawn because of the Genesis Chamber . Even if there are just two Suture Priest s on the battlefield and one Genesis Chamber  our opponents will have a very difficult time casting creature spells. I have always thought Mentor of the Meek  was an underrated card. He brings us card draw, and in this deck due to the vast number of one drops along with the Myr tokens from Genesis Chamber  and Norin the Wary  we will have plenty of opportunities to activate his ability. Mentor of the Meek  is also a human which helps our good friend Champion of the Parish . I should also mention Ranger of Eos , although I don't run it in my version of the deck, he's certainly a obvious contender. He pumps tutors and pumps Champion of the Parish and also helps us find Norin the Wary along our Soul Sisters. While Ranger of Eos does cost more than anything in this deck to cast, he can help build our board back after a wrath effect.

    

These are our utility cards. Oblivion Ring  needs no introduction and hits major threats, primarily those pesky enchantments and planeswalkers. Lightning Helix  is creature removal (or burn) that can also heal us. Proclamation of Rebirth  brings back Norin the Wary and Champion the Parish who will become targets, it also brings back our soul sisters. Following a devastating wrath effect like Day of Judgment , Proclamation of Rebirth  can help us get back to a quick pace. Chalice of Life  is great for a number of reasons. Early game it can gain us life and help us against aggressive agro but with the inevitable lifegain, once the card transforms into Chalice of Death  you suddenly have an alternate win condition and an activated ability that in multiplayer screams "Don't attack me or I'll burn you hard." Raid Bombardment deals a lot of damage throughout the game due to our Myr tokens from Genesis Chamber and late game can win us the game. It also allows us to do something offensive with the tokens Kher Keep producers.

There certainly are other support options that work here that are definitely worth mentioning.  Ghostly Prison  slows down many agro decks and is always solid in white multiplayer control.   Intangible Virtue  also supports your token army. Odric, Master Tactician is very scary and must be dealt with immediately because makes our entire army unblockable including our freakishly huge Champion of the Parish   Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer  turns our measly Myr tokens into a vicious army. Blasting Station  is similar to Raid Bombardment .

   

Nothing too fancy with the land base here. Mountain s and Plains  need no introduction and because the deck only needs one Mountain  to function you really don't need to go overboard with them. Battlefield Forge  is a very budget friendly dual land but to be entirely honest doesn't seem entirely necessary. Kher Keep  is an underrated Legendary Land that uses red mana to create tokens we can use to help us draw cards via Mentor of the Meek , chump block threats, and with help us gain even more life. Forbidden Orchard  is another option that works well with Suture Priest  but is a little less budget friendly. Eiganjo Castle  is not super budget friendly, but is certainly worth running one of. It is a Legendary Land that acts as a Plains  that can also protect Norin the Wary  from threats such as Grim Lavamancer  and Seal of Fire . It is certainly is worth running if you choose to also add Odric, Master Tactician  or Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer . The deck is running 21 lands now, but to be honest it could probably go lower.

The Deck

Creature (23)
4x Champion of the Parish
4x  Norin the Wary
4x  Soul Warden
4x  Soul's Attendant
4x  Suture Priest
3x  Mentor of the Meek
Land (21)
9x  Plains
6x  Mountain
4x  Battlefield Forge
1x  Kher Keep
1x   Eiganjo Castle
Instant (3)
3x  Lightning Helix
Artifact (5)
4x  Genesis Chamber
1x  Chalice of Life
Sorcery (3)
3x  Proclamation of Rebirth
Enchantment (5)
3x  Oblivion Ring
2x Raid Bombardment

Thanks for taking the time to read over this deck, I would really appreciate some feedback on how I can make this deck stronger (without breaking the bank) along with what is good about the deck as it stands. This is the first time I've ever made a deck with red, so I'm particularly concerned about overlooking red cards.
I don't bite, don't hesitate to message me if you have any questions or thoughts about deck ideas I post or anything Magic the Gathering related.

My Causal Modern Decks
Swag Flu (Mono Black Infect) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29788619/Swag_Flu_(Mono_Black_Infect)
American Super Friends (White/Blue/Red Planeswalker Control) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29772319/American_Super_Friends_(Budget_WhiteBlueRed_Planeswalker_Control)
Hong Kong (White/Red Norin Tokens)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29636557/Hong_Kong_(WhiteRed_Norin_Tokens)
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 3:46PM #2
Cregnacht
Date Joined: Jun 2, 2012
Posts: 252
I really like the setup, especially with the Genesis Chamber.

Increasing Devotion is one of my favourite token cards, as well as Lingering Souls , though I think you'd be good without either of them. Thraben Doomsayer may be an idea, but again your deck list looks really good to me. Lots of life gain, lots of token gen, lots of power in it all, and a very low average CMC to boot.

Serra Ascendant perhaps due to the large amounts of lifegain?
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 11:28PM #3
HonorBasquiat
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2012
Posts: 519

Jan 20, 2013 -- 3:46PM, Cregnacht wrote:

I really like the setup, especially with the Genesis Chamber.

Increasing Devotion is one of my favourite token cards, as well as Lingering Souls , though I think you'd be good without either of them. Thraben Doomsayer may be an idea, but again your deck list looks really good to me. Lots of life gain, lots of token gen, lots of power in it all, and a very low average CMC to boot.

Serra Ascendant perhaps due to the large amounts of lifegain?


I'm glad you like the setup. I was considering Serra Ascendant , but I think that if this deck gets to over 30 life, it will probably end up winning regardless. A lot of those token cards are solid, paricuarly Increasing Devotion  because it makes Champion of the Parish larger, but I don't know where I would fit it.

I am strongly considering cutting a couple Chalice of Life for Odric, Master Tactician  

I don't bite, don't hesitate to message me if you have any questions or thoughts about deck ideas I post or anything Magic the Gathering related.

My Causal Modern Decks
Swag Flu (Mono Black Infect) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29788619/Swag_Flu_(Mono_Black_Infect)
American Super Friends (White/Blue/Red Planeswalker Control) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29772319/American_Super_Friends_(Budget_WhiteBlueRed_Planeswalker_Control)
Hong Kong (White/Red Norin Tokens)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29636557/Hong_Kong_(WhiteRed_Norin_Tokens)
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 12:37AM #4
BobbertZhubert
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2013
Posts: 627
All I can say is WOW. This deck looks awesome. I'm sorry that I don't really have any suggestions but I'm really impressed with this deck and idea. Seems good to me. :D
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 8:52AM #5
HonorBasquiat
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2012
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 12:37AM, BobbertZhubert wrote:

All I can say is WOW. This deck looks awesome. I'm sorry that I don't really have any suggestions but I'm really impressed with this deck and idea. Seems good to me. :D


Thanks, I'm glad you like it. If there's anything you or anyone else has to say I really am looking for some more specific feedback, positive or constructive. I'm a little disappointed at so little I've gotten, I worked kind of hard on this primer/deck thread :p


Regarding the deck, the more I think about it, as cool as Odric, Master Tactician is, Raid Bombardment
 does basically the same thing but costs less mana to play, is more budget friendly, allows me to deal damage with tokens and the small creatures immiedately rather than waiting a whole turn for the summoning sickness to go away and is less fragile because it is not a creature. It also has the ability to stack, so for now I'm thinking two Raid Bombardment and one Chalice of Life .

I don't bite, don't hesitate to message me if you have any questions or thoughts about deck ideas I post or anything Magic the Gathering related.

My Causal Modern Decks
Swag Flu (Mono Black Infect) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29788619/Swag_Flu_(Mono_Black_Infect)
American Super Friends (White/Blue/Red Planeswalker Control) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29772319/American_Super_Friends_(Budget_WhiteBlueRed_Planeswalker_Control)
Hong Kong (White/Red Norin Tokens)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29636557/Hong_Kong_(WhiteRed_Norin_Tokens)
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 2:21AM #6
krichaiushii
Date Joined: Jul 17, 2003
Posts: 4,049
I've looked the thread over, both here and at MTGS, and haven't commented because I don't know what to add.

The formatting is awesome, though it took my phone a while to load it (no problems at home on the computer, though).

Having played Raid Bombardment , as well as having died to it, I can attest to its effectiveness.  Even though the Chalice will take bigger bites out of an opposing life total, I can't help but wonder if Raid Bombardment wouldn't be a more... efficient means to deal damage?  In the end, no Chalice might be the best option. Playtesting will show. 

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 5:47AM #7
Cregnacht
Date Joined: Jun 2, 2012
Posts: 252
I was fortunate enough to get two Odrics in boosters alone; I recommend it him, but the Bombardments look equally as nasty, especially with so many tokens...

I like Intangible Virtue in my token deck, but I run with a LOT of spirit tokens, so they're pretty much all unblockable anyway.

Again, really nice looking deck. Jealous!
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 11:54AM #8
HonorBasquiat
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2012
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I'm glad people like the deck, really makes me feel good that players here, many who are probably better than me, enjoy the deck. I would love it if some day someone online build the deck and also tested it. I spend a quite a bit of time on building it, and a lot of time on the primer that I think looks pretty good even though loads poorly on phones, haha (and trust me, I know about the phone thing, I have to put my phone in landscape or I can't see everything on the original post).

I think I pulled a couple Odric, Master Tactician as well, but I don't think he's particuarly valuable for what it's worth, so anyone could just buy them. I like him because he can help Champion of the Parish swing, but I don't think that alone makes him better than Raid Bombardment . One thing I like about Intangible Virture is it pumps the tokens from Kher Keep , but so does Raid Bombardment . Another great thing like Raid Bombardment , like Intanigible Virture is the ability stacks which can get pretty silly!

Anyways, I edited the original thread, with a quite a few tweaks. I added 1 Eiganjo Castle , and mentioned  Odric, Master Tactician and Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer  (also pretty good, in some ways better than Odric, Master Tactician because you don't have to wait a whole turn before you win with it, but he doesn't help Champion of the Parish ) as alternate options. I fixed some grammer issues and I also changed a couple of other things, so it might be worth re-reading.

I'm still looking for general feedback on the deck, positive or constructive, it's all helpful. I was wondering a few things specifically as well:

What are some other alternate win conditions that are not creatures?

What do you guys think about Blasting Station ?

Are there any other legendary lands that could fit here that are bugdet friendly?

And finally, may it be worth it to run Immortal Servitude (New Gatecrash card, don't want to spoil it for anyone so look it up if you aren't aware) in place of Proclimation of Rebirth ?

Edit: I THOUGHT I edited the original post, but I guess I didn't, I'll do it after the server update.
I don't bite, don't hesitate to message me if you have any questions or thoughts about deck ideas I post or anything Magic the Gathering related.

My Causal Modern Decks
Swag Flu (Mono Black Infect) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29788619/Swag_Flu_(Mono_Black_Infect)
American Super Friends (White/Blue/Red Planeswalker Control) http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29772319/American_Super_Friends_(Budget_WhiteBlueRed_Planeswalker_Control)
Hong Kong (White/Red Norin Tokens)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29636557/Hong_Kong_(WhiteRed_Norin_Tokens)
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 12:22PM #9
El_Pared
Date Joined: Mar 3, 2005
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you're running Proclamation of Rebirth but not Martyr Of Sands ?  I guess that's OK, since you're gaining life 1 at a time through Soul Warden effects.

You might consider running Ranger of Eos and a toolbox of 1 mana creatures like Kami of False Hope and the martyr.  Or you could just run him because he tutors out about 80% of your creatures.

you should probably find room for a 4th Lightning Helix too.  3 is probably plenty, but it's a card I always run 4 of in any deck that uses it.

Cool deck though.  I usually only see Norin the Wary in Pandemonium decks, so it's refreshing to see him used in a different style
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 12:43PM #10
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I'll second Ranger of Eos, he is really a fantastic card and less mana-intensive then the mentor. Goblin Bushwacker might be a good creature to have one-of to tutor for with him.

I almost want to suggest Varchild's War-Riders because of the suture priest, but you might not have enough ways to handle to tokens. Which got me thinking that Thunderstaff might be that card, since it protects your from their tokens and the pump effect can help you overrun them with yours. Electrickery also seems solid for this. Hero of Oxid Ridge or

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