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5 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 10:56AM #31
Iam_IronMan
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Jan 20, 2013 -- 4:16PM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

I mean, if you're going to take up arms about one of the M10 rules changes, get mad about Damage Off The Stack. At least that mattered on a regular basis.


Absolutely. In fact, it didn't just matter, it actually negatively impacted a lot of cards. Mogg Fanatic used to be able to hit for two damage, Yavimaya Elder could hit for two damage AND net you multiple cards and there are maybe thousands of other cards that took advantage of basically the same trick.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:14PM #32
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And now, for my grand reveal, the OP was entirely copy-and-pasted from an entirely unironic comment on Power Surge . DrJack, ladies and gentlemen!
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:26PM #33
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You will never get away with this!

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 2:40PM #34
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I think I'm gonna start playing with mana burn... secretly tapping my lands wisely to conserve both my life total and my magical powers.

Don't tell ANYONE!
When playing Commander, before you add a card to your deck, you have to ask yourself:
"Is this card better than Rings ?"
If you play commander and don't have your deck[s] in the Decklist Compendium, maybe you should. Or if you're new or looking into the format, the compendium has some good advice for beginners as well as decklists.

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We should all have one of these playable from our sideboards
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 8:23AM #35
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:14PM, Mata_Hari wrote:

entirely copy-and-pasted from an entirely unironic comment on Power Surge .


And that post makes sense in that context.

While in general, it seems silly to get upset over mana burn going away, it does mean that players can just tap all their lands every turn to cheat their way around this card. So it is frustrating that a good card was lost due to a totally unnecessary rules change.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 8:31AM #36
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:23AM, quadibloc wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 1:14PM, Mata_Hari wrote:

entirely copy-and-pasted from an entirely unironic comment on Power Surge .


And that post makes sense in that context.

While in general, it seems silly to get upset over mana burn going away, it does mean that players can just tap all their lands every turn to cheat their way around this card. So it is frustrating that a good card was lost due to a totally unnecessary rules change.



yeah man, power surge decks were dominating before the rules change.

 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 9:25AM #37
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Also the fact that he negatively referenced the removal of interrupts, something that happened 14 years ago.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 10:51AM #38
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Jan 20, 2013 -- 6:41AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

They have changed Magic: the Gathering far too many times in its short lifespan. Imagine if chess went through zillions of changes every decade? It wouldn't have lasted several centuries, that's for sure.




LOL.
Chess has changed rules constantly since the 13th century.  Whilst the game is older than that, that was the start of the game being modernised. 
Many of the old rules were extremely teadious without (relatively) modern changes like stalemate, checkmate, time limits, castling, pawn promotion etc.
Many of the pieces had much more restricted movement (the queen was historically the worst piece), and of all the current pieces, only three of them still move the same way they did back originally way back then in the 13th.
Some changes to the game happened less than 100 years ago, for a game likely to be ~1000 years old. 
It was only in the 1900's that rules were standardised the world over..... 
The modern changes sped the game up amongst other things, and cleared up ambiguous rulings.

It's survived just fine.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 11:09AM #39
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 10:51AM, slave wrote:

Jan 20, 2013 -- 6:41AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

They have changed Magic: the Gathering far too many times in its short lifespan. Imagine if chess went through zillions of changes every decade? It wouldn't have lasted several centuries, that's for sure.




LOL.
Chess has changed rules constantly since the 13th century.  Whilst the game is older than that, that was the start of the game being modernised. 
Many of the old rules were extremely teadious without (relatively) modern changes like stalemate, checkmate, time limits, castling, pawn promotion etc.
Many of the pieces had much more restricted movement (the queen was historically the worst piece), and of all the current pieces, only three of them still move the same way they did back originally way back then in the 13th.
Some changes to the game happened less than 100 years ago, for a game likely to be ~1000 years old. 
It was only in the 1900's that rules were standardised the world over..... 
The modern changes sped the game up amongst other things, and cleared up ambiguous rulings.

It's survived just fine.


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 9:46PM #40
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 8:31AM, razorborne wrote:

yeah man, power surge decks were dominating before the rules change.



Well, that was actually my point. Complaining about mana burn going away doesn't make much sense in relation to Magic in general, but if you're talking about just that one card (without regard to how important it ever was) then it makes sense - mana burn did affect that one card, at least.

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