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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 6:18PM #21
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Most people do play by the current official rules, even if they might grumble about them.

At sanctioned events, including FNM, obviously they have no choice.

I don't think one can claim that mana burn affected Black Lotus in a significant manner, which leads me to wonder if that statement is present to indicate tongue-in-cheekness.

My alternative to the Magic: 2012 rules changes was roundly condemned as going back to the chaos of the Fifth Edition, and so I will not repeat it now.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 6:30PM #22
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The effect of mana burn is often understated.  Sure, depending on the deck you were playing it may not have come up very much, but it certainly had a large effect on the game.

Personally I liked having it around, but I understand the design team wanted to free up design space by limiting players' ability to control their exact life total.

Though they havent seemed to do much of anything impressive with that design space so far.  If the choice is between having mana burn vs having Near-Death Experience and Fateful Hour , I'd prefer mana burn.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 9:56PM #23
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I've been playing for about a year and have never had a problem with excess mana at the end of my turn. 
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 12:52AM #24
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I agree whole heartily with Mata_Hari. As a quick furthermore, I would like to point out the tactical complexity that mana burn adds to the game, c.f. Braid of Fire , et.c, et.c. Originally released in Ice Age block, when mana burn was still a thriving part of Magic: the Gathering, the aforementioned Braid loses much of its visceral impact with the removal of mana burn. It was once a card that had to be built around, but now it can just be tossed in any red deck to instantly improve it. The examples are literally endless, but I think I will leave it there. Thanks!

Apr 8, 2013 -- 2:06PM, Matt_Holck wrote:

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Jan 20, 2013 -- 11:33AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Jan 19, 2013 -- 1:54PM, bay_falconer wrote:

Jan 18, 2013 -- 11:16AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Jan 18, 2013 -- 9:19AM, bay_falconer wrote:


Ceci n'est pas une pipe.


This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.


I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.


I know.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 1:32AM #25
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The worst thing about the elimination of mana burn is that my hopes for a spell that killed the opponent by giving him or her a massive amount of mana were in vain.

Imagine how cool it would be to kill an opponent by making them chocke on mana!

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Nov 27, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 27, 2012 -- 12:26AM, BankaiMastery wrote:

Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.

The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.

I hope you all feel really smart now.

This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"


Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.


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Nov 24, 2012 -- 7:19PM, CherylCheryl wrote:

I wish more girls play magic cards...


Have you considered assassinating Kevin?

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 2:05AM #26
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Jan 20, 2013 -- 2:20PM, Wynzerman wrote:

Jan 20, 2013 -- 10:48AM, bay_falconer wrote:




You're forgiven for every stupid thing you've said up until this moment. That's brilliant xD



But it's not even used properly.

Also, can we stop taking this thread seriously. If you wanted to discuss the impact of mana burn, then there's probably a new thread coming in a week or so where you can throw words at the new guy.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 3:29AM #27
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Bahahahaha further trolls have joined the fun and lured in unsuspecting forum people!
I love trolls

Dont hate me because I'm blunt and you cannot handle it
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 4:36AM #28
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 3:29AM, MoiMoi wrote:

Bahahahaha further trolls have joined the fun and lured in unsuspecting forum people!



Good thing you're such an expert in dealing with them then.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 10:33AM #29
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Jan 20, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Mown wrote:

Jan 20, 2013 -- 12:56PM, andoru wrote:

Why wouldn't anyone follow the rules of the game? If you're not playing by the rules, then you're not playing Magic.



It's not like one of the reasons board games are great is because of the possibility of house rules.
EDH wasn't a format before wotc made it one. They were still playing the game.




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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 10:39AM #30
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 3:29AM, MoiMoi wrote:

Bahahahaha further trolls have joined the fun and lured in unsuspecting forum people!



oh is Mata trolling? I never would've figured that out without your help. thank god you were here to set us straight.

 

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