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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 11:07AM #1
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Judicious Debate
Enchantment (Uncommon)
Whenever you cast a white and/or blue spell, put a script counter on Judicious Debate.
Sacrifice Judicious Debate: Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays 1 for each script counter on Judicious Debate.

Perplexing Thesis
Enchantment (Uncommon)
Whenever you cast a blue and/or black spell, put a script counter on Perplexing Thesis.
Sacrifice Perplexing Thesis: Target player puts the top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is twice the number of script counters on Perplexing Thesis.

Caustic Tirade
Enchantment (Uncommon)
Whenever you cast a black and/or red spell, put a script counter on Caustic Tirade.
Sacrifice Caustic Tirade: Caustic Tirade deals X damage to target creature, where X is the number of script counters on Caustic Tirade.

Brilliant Lyric
Enchantment (Uncommon)
Whenever you cast a red and/or green spell, put a script counter on Brilliant Lyric.
Sacrifice Brilliant Lyric: Add X mana in any combination of colors to your mana pool, where X is the number of script counters on Brilliant Lyric.

Eloquent Censure
Enchantment (Uncommon)
Whenever you cast a green and/or white spell, put a script counter on Eloquent Censure.
Sacrifice Eloquent Censure: Destroy up to X target artifacts and/or enchantments, where X is the number of script counters on Eloquent Censure.


I don't usually post cycles because there are always one or two cards in the cycle that I don't like.  And this one's not much different  Feels a bit too close to New Phyrexia's cycle of Shrines.  I hope to get some other eyes on it.

This might seem like it breaks the monocolored theme of Sagathia, but each of these cards is just as strong in a deck with just one color as it is in a deck that uses both colors.  Two colored decks are allowed, but there's no special push towards them like there was in Shadowmoor.  And if I'm going to be using hybrid cards in the set, then the hybrids need to pull their weight in the "color matters" theme too.


Side note:  I always like to provide art to go with the cards I design.  But the flavor of Sagathia is pushing away from traditional fantasy, which means it's getting very difficult to find artwork that reflects the world properly.  With card concepts like this in the set (along with civilized Goblin scholars, magical sports, and lecture halls) I might follow the example of others in this forum (thinking of CKY's awesome Solphos setting) and rely on flavor text and card names to carry the weight instead.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 12:27PM #2
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Actually, it reminds me of the song enchantments , except faster.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 12:28PM #3
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Your text got small, but your cards got nice.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 5:24PM #4
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Huh, I wasn't even aware of Serra's Liturgy when I designed that card...
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 6:29PM #5
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Caustic Tirade is both underpowered and also not really black at all. I would change it so it did an equivilant amount of damage to that creature's controller, because you are going through a lot of effort for some mediocre creature removal currently.
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 9:36PM #6
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Black/Red is a weird color combination. Both colors are good at creature destruction, so that should be a strong point of overlap between them. But the specific mechanics used by the two colors are so distinct that it's hard to make a hybrid that doesn't feel off color.  I considered making it +X/-X instead, but that didn't feel right either.  Damage may be a bit unusual in Black, but I think as long as the end result is the destruction of a creature it's not too serious a bleed.

On the other hand, maybe I'm just getting sloppy.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 9:45PM #7
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Caustic Tirade looks perfectly fine to me. It's the and ones that are unplayable IMO; the effects are simply too narrow to see any serious use.
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Apr 19, 2012 -- 5:36AM, prospector wrote:

Think of how Neo couldn't beat the robots, but they kept him around anyways to defeat Agent Smith. Sure, the robots might not like having a Neo running rampant because instead of playing their favorite 4 drop fatty robot, they have to play a bunch of one mana Matrixs to contain him, but at least Neo keeps Agent Smith from reanimating an Iona on turn two.

Jun 26, 2012 -- 3:07PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Are you saying I'm trying to blame my loss on something? I don't care that I lost, I care that he's a sore loser, and a cheater, and a liar.

Oct 5, 2012 -- 1:36PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

CKY, are you bad at anything?

Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.

I mean, In KevinWorld, Mark is reading the very words I'm typing as well. Heck, in KevinWorld maybe I am Mark.

Nov 9, 2012 -- 2:27PM, Exxile72 wrote:

I'm beginning to think CKY may be anime in real life...

Feb 11, 2013 -- 7:38AM, Jessica_Morgan wrote:

Don't go anywhere CKY, I need to crash dramatically through your window and propose marriage and I don't want you throwing off my paradrop.

Mar 15, 2013 -- 7:56AM, Knifethrower wrote:

[In response to a thread about how hard grading is]

Upon reading this, I've found myself completely unable to operate in the world.  I tried to decide what to eat for breakfast, and pondered the vast consequences of my choice.  How do I balance my dietary needs against my desire to eat good-tasting food? Should I factor in how long it takes to prepare?  Cereal is ready in moments, but bacon takes longer to cook.

Then there is the impact on other industries.  Do people in the cereal industry deserve to be employed more than people in the bacon industry?  Which industry should I support? I don't even have the data regarding HOW MUCH the cereal industry benefits from me eating a bowl of cereal, or how much the bacon industry benefits from me eating a side of bacon.  How can I compare two qualities I can't even quantify?

And let's not forget the milk on the cereal.  In addition to determining whether or not milk is healthy for me, how much that benefits the milk industry, and how much the people in the milk industry deserve my support, we have to factor in the fact that cows are put under brutal conditions in order to collect thier milk.  Of course, the same goes for the pigs, and then they get killed.  Of course, I really like bacon.  So I need to come up with a scale that compares the value of cow happiness to pig happiness to my happiness.  What trade-offs am I willing to make here?  Does the fact that the pig gets put out of its misery count as a plus or a minus?  Isn't bacon bad for me anyway?

Deciding what to eat for breakfast (or any meal) is impossible.  Help me!

Apr 11, 2013 -- 6:15AM, altimis wrote:

I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.

Apr 12, 2013 -- 7:13PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

Anyway, you'd be surprised about Time Stop. When I first saw that card as a relatively new player I didn't see its full potential until I read the reminder text. Is it that unintuitive, though? Mine I mean. What is possibility? Is it possible for me to type these words with my tusks? No, because I don't have tusks. Although I am now tempted to go buy some - obviously not from poachers or whatever - and use them as typing apparatus. I could be the best secretary ever. "What's your words per minute sir?" "Well, only six, but I use these tusks to type them." "You're hired!" That was the interview. And is anyone else disappointed that "apparati" is not the plural form of apparatus? I just could strangle a dictionary, because "apparatuses" is a real word. I guess it sounds pretty cool. I'll call them my Apparatusks.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 10:08PM #8
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Jan 19, 2013 -- 5:24PM, Fallingman wrote:

Huh, I wasn't even aware of Serra's Liturgy when I designed that card...


There're ten of them, two cycles at uncommon and rare.

Caustic Tirade is fine , even though I'm still not used to seeing that on black cards. 

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 9:10AM #9
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Jan 19, 2013 -- 6:29PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Caustic Tirade is both underpowered and also not really black at all. I would change it so it did an equivilant amount of damage to that creature's controller, because you are going through a lot of effort for some mediocre creature removal currently.




Now changing it to "deals X damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures or players".  Also adding an activation cost, just to add the so-called "shields down" moment once in a while.

CKY- Most of the other color-matters cards for white and green are constructive rather than disruptive, so I shied away from effects like token-making or creature-pumping.  Same for blue/black, which was originally using something very similar to Shrine of Piercing Vision .  I agree, it does feel weird to have them so narrow compared to the more flexible entries in the cycle.

I thought of giving blue/black the ability to cast an instant or sorcery with mana cost X or less from a graveyard, but I didn't like how quickly it maxed out its usefulness.  It's pretty strong with just two or three counters, and it doesn't need much more than that.  It's a fun effect though.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 1:00PM #10
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Jan 19, 2013 -- 12:28PM, ChaosLight wrote:

Your text got small, but your cards got nice.




But you should never drop a font size in YMTC.

Jun 27, 2012 -- 12:04AM, GM_Champion wrote:

Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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