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5 months ago  ::  Jan 18, 2013 - 10:23PM #1
-TheFlameReaper-
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Ok I posted the OP version in [Contest] - Legends so I wanted to know what others would think of the tweaked version:
The sleepy cousin of Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician !



Op Sleepyhead, War Signaler 


 

Legendary creature - Goblin Advisor (M)


Shroud

: Randomly choose a number from 1-4. You may put up to X Goblin creature cards from your hand and put it onto the battlefield where X is the chosen number. They gain haste. Sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step.


"Whenever I snore... I mean give the signal... one of you will charge into battle and get yourself killed, clear?"


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EDIT: MAJOR changes and shortening of text.
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May 10, 2013 -- 6:41PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:

I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.



May 23, 2013 -- 10:51PM, squinty_eyes wrote:

May 23, 2013 -- 10:33PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 4:52AM #2
Rush_Clasic
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Shroud isn't really a red ability. Otherwise, it's an interesting card. Why snore counters instead of +1/+1 counters? The effect is the same in almost every way. The mechanic is extremely powerful; free Siege-Gang Commander s are damn frosty. There's also a lot of busy work in this card that might not need to be there.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 6:25AM #3
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Jan 19, 2013 -- 4:52AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

Shroud isn't really a red ability. Otherwise, it's an interesting card. Why snore counters instead of +1/+1 counters? The effect is the same in almost every way. The mechanic is extremely powerful; free Siege-Gang Commander s are damn frosty. There's also a lot of busy work in this card that might not need to be there.





Well shroud cos hes sleeping so no one not even his master can target him or anything.
I didnt want it to be pumped up like cards like give every creature a +1/+1 counter .
Any other comments would be nice!

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Yes, you do have the Denizen, and you do have the Reckoner
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May 10, 2013 -- 6:41PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:

I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.



May 23, 2013 -- 10:51PM, squinty_eyes wrote:

May 23, 2013 -- 10:33PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

ANYONE???????????????


If I say "yes," am I just gonna die to your new COME AT ME BRO deck?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 6:31AM #4
Wahooney
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That looks like way too much text for one card.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 7:10AM #5
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I think the shroud is fine, personally. Definitely way more balanced this way. It could be condensed a little, as Wahooney points out, but the overall idea and flavor are very well done. If you want to give it Shroud, though, you should probably make it unconditional. What you sacrifice in flavor, you make up for in elegance.

What about if it let you play goblins from your hand, rather than your library? It tones the power down a little, but that could be a good thing for such a cheap creature.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 19, 2013 - 8:25AM #6
HairlessThoctar
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First, the name needs to be changed.

Second, the ability is busted to hell and back. Maybe make it scale based on converted mana cost? 

Third, I really don't get the flavor. If you have to use flavor text to explain what your card is doing, the flavor isn't strong enough.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 20, 2013 - 1:30PM #7
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That's funny, I don't get the mechanics. I just see a wall of text.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 4:40AM #8
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Ok MAJOR edits to it now. Is it much better?
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May 17, 2013 -- 8:14AM, Gathered wrote:


Yes, you do have the Denizen, and you do have the Reckoner
But there is one thing you don't have.

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A flyer :P



May 10, 2013 -- 6:41PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:

I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.



May 23, 2013 -- 10:51PM, squinty_eyes wrote:

May 23, 2013 -- 10:33PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

ANYONE???????????????


If I say "yes," am I just gonna die to your new COME AT ME BRO deck?

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 11:33AM #9
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Shroud? Possibly the most anti-red ability in the game.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 12:32PM #10
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:33AM, bay_falconer wrote:

Shroud? Possibly the most anti-red ability in the game.


No, that would be protection from red.

But yeah, shroud shouldn't be on the card.

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