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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:32PM
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I played Golgari Charm  to clean up my opponent's board while he had Melira, Sylvok Outcast  . He tells me that I can't use the charm to give -1/-1 to his creatures. But I want to argue that there's a difference between giving everyone -1/-1 from Golgari Charm and giving one creature a -1/-1 counter, which Melira would prevent. Can I get some additional input on this?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:34PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 28, 2010
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Golgari Charm doesn't use counters, Melira, Sylvok Outcast does not stop it there is a difference between Mutilate  and Black Sun's Zenith  one uses counters (because it says so) the other one doesn't (because it doesn't use the word "counters")
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:35PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2012
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-X/-X effects are different from counters. There's not going to be a rule that states this specifically, but I'll see what I can find.
Edit: Here's the best I can do.
121.1. A counter is a marker placed on an object or player that modifies its characteristics and/or interacts with a rule, ability, or effect. Counters are not objects and have no characteristics. Notably, a counter is not a token, and a token is not a counter. Counters with the same name or description are interchangeable.
Since -X/-X effects really don't fit that description, one can conclude that they are not counters.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:40PM
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Thanks, I think I like this charm even more now. :D
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