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Jan 19, 2013 -- 2:03AM, MrIndigo wrote:

you should avoid one-shot token makers
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On the other hand, (noncreature) permanents that put tokens into play, especially Elspeth, Sorin of Innistrad, Garruk, and also cards like Luminarch Ascension or Pegasus Mesa. These cards make sweepers a temporary setback, but nothing more.

I actually completely disagree with this, and would advise taking the mirror image approach.

I say run a ton of one-shot instant-swarm cards, and only use the crem-de-la-creme of the repeatable generators. Increasing devotion , army of the damned , storm herd , lingering souls , spectral procession , cloudgoat ranger , grave titan , geist-honored monk , etc....these are all great cards for a token deck, especially in a wipe-heavy meta. Being able to instantly regain 'swarm' status with just a single card or two is a far more powerful way to recover from a wrath effect than taking 4+ turns to slowly rebuild via token-generating planeswalkers.

I mean, yeah sure, run the planeswalkers mentioned. They're good cards. But don't epect them to be the backbone of your deck's token generation. They're too slow for that. They support the strategy, and do other cool stuff like threaten to go ultimate behind an endless stream of chump blockers. But they can't do it all themselves.

Plus, if you make your deck too focused on repeatable token engines, you make yourself more vulnerable to answers. If you're relying on garruk and elspeth to get you there, and someone takes one of them with blatant thievery , you're in a world of pain. If someone nature's claim s your luminarch ascension before it goes live, that really sucks. But if instead you were relying on storm herd and army of the damned, do you even care about blatant thievery? Sure, take a 2/2 token or a 1/1 flier. Are you sure you wouldn't rather have a land?? You probably would haha. And I'm still crushing you in board position!

One of the cool things about token decks is supposed to be a nigh-invulnerability to pinpoint answers. If your strength comes from a large number of weak things rather than a few singularly powerful permanents, your opponents are going to expend their resources fighting over each others precious bombs. Nobody's going to use confiscate to steal a 2/2 zombie token. And that's part of the strength of this deck style. If you don't have any singularly powerful permanents, all the pinpoint answers tend to instead go and answer other things controlled by other players - things that you probably want answered too! So when that return to dust goes and answers a sphinx of the steel wind that you were having trouble out-racing, and something else powerful that was bothing the caster, and nothing you own, you can silently be happy that you weren't using sacred mesa ...because if you were, you'd probably have eaten half of that return to dust and could still be struggling with the big sphinx.

Jan 20, 2013 -- 10:23PM, Scytale1 wrote:

For me it's all about Goblin Chirurgeon he says in the event of a wrath keep half the board alive including the all-stars like Moggcatcher Goblin Chieftain Boartusk Liege krenko, mob boss etc. It also helps having a commander with a come into play token making ability Wort, The Raidmother rocks between all the goblin generating spells which you can conspire:

Goblin Rally
Dragon Fodder
Goblin Offensive
Krenko's command
empty The Warrens

and creatures like
Mogg War Marshal
Goblin Marshal
Siege-gang Commander
Beetleback chief
Chancellor of the forge
the aforementioned Krenko, mob boss

etc

I can generate a lot of tokens very quickly even without Chirurgeon in play it's definately a viable stratergy.  Don't run  Goblin Assault it forces you to make horrible attacks.

See my decklist here community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...

Assuming you mean things like Day of Judgment / Planar Cleansing or things like it because Wrath of God (And Damnation ) says that that they cannot be regenerated.
That approach would work, but he's running Ghave so its kind of a different story, though this effect is duplicated in Fanatical Devotion in white.

Instead of just using cheap 1/1 token producers,

use expensive ones like crush of wurms paired with parallel lives or doubling season

you're playing green, you can put expensive spells in your deck

also, creature pumps

GW decks have sooo many enchantments that pump creatures Gaea's anthem , intangible virtue , Mirari's wake just to name a few

also in token, you can use eldrazi monument with no severe drawbacks and after that very few board wipes will work, killing wave , black sun's zenith and final judgment are a few that you still have to worry about though

also, a niche card I use in my token decks fresh meat

they board wipe you? enjoy upwards to triple your tokens with doubling/parallel out