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6 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 11:28AM
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Keep in mind, I don't play Standard at all, but I do watch a lot of people playing it while judging. This has been true for a long time: there is little to no drawback to playing a lot of colors in Standard. WotC has pretty much completely stopped printing strong ways of interacting with your opponent's manabase. You can't punish someone for being super greedy with their mana. Also, every block and core set we get different multicolored lands. This ensures that people can fill thier land slots up with all the viable non-basics they want. Finally, due to the reduced card pool size of Standard the power band is steeper than in other formats like Modern and Legacy. There are a certain number of bombs you can throw in and you want to play as many as possible. Those cards may not actually be in the same colors or even form a coherant strategy, but good cards that win games are still good cards to flesh out your deck.
Lack of interaction with opponent's mana + Tons of color fixing + There is usually a better card if you go into more colors = No real reason not to use more colors.
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6 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 1:30PM
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Keep in mind, I don't play Standard at all, but I do watch a lot of people playing it while judging. This has been true for a long time: there is little to no drawback to playing a lot of colors in Standard. WotC has pretty much completely stopped printing strong ways of interacting with your opponent's manabase. You can't punish someone for being super greedy with their mana. Also, every block and core set we get different multicolored lands. This ensures that people can fill thier land slots up with all the viable non-basics they want.
If ever there was a great time for Blood Moon  to get a reprint, M14 will be it.
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6 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 1:44PM
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If ever there was a great time for Blood Moon to get a reprint, M14 will be it.
Or Price of Progress  and Back to Basics  . I'd love it if either of those got a reprint, since I've already got my playset of Moons.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 1:58PM
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Mono decks are still relevant. It just happens that green and blue aren't. Green because monogreen was never relevant, and blue because Cavern of Souls  .
What is the last significant mono blue deck you can remember? I need to go back to TSP.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 2:02PM
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was Guile  ever a thing in Standard? I know I am having a blast with him in Modern
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 2:13PM
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Date Joined:
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If I recall correctly Guile saw play in the 5-Color control deck of it's day. Speaking of 5 color control: Vivid Lands  , Reflecting pool  and Exotic Orchard  were the mana base of choice back then, so no one had any trouble mana fixing.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 2:26PM
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If I recall correctly Guile saw play in the 5-Color control deck of it's day. Speaking of 5 color control: Vivid Lands , Reflecting pool and Exotic Orchard were the mana base of choice back then, so no one had any trouble mana fixing.
You need a pretty crazy manabase to play Cryptic Command, Cruel Ultimatum, Wrath of God and Cloudthresher in the same deck. I think it's some time until we'll see that again though.
Filter Lands helped too, or whatever the a/b = aa/ab/bb lands are called.
Everything Mown does is elegant.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 2:46PM
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Another problem with mono, is that often multcoloured cards get a discount due to ther assumed harder to reach casting cost. For example, one of my favorite cards of all time; horned kavu  vs centaur courser  vs centaur healer  . Notice something odd? The courser is inferiour both to the cheaper 2cmc and the same-costed 3cmc. So you get more benefit, and with the current manabases, the old problem of fixing mana is solved for you, so there is little reason to not go for multicoloured, with some exceptions. Another result of invasion was also that it brought along hate for monocoloured cards, and to this day cards like ultimate price  puts monocolour at a slight disadvantage. That said, monocolour exsist and it can still be effective. My monowhite human weenies deck works ok, and I have seen monored goblin decks in legacy, or monoblue combo decks. In terms of standard, i believe Zombiess were monocoloured before ravnica, and as has been noted, we are in a monocoloured block at the time. However, while at it. if say green has 80 cards in a block, and white has 80 colours, the 160 card pool is statistically more likely to have a higher number of good cards than just the 80 card pool, so that is also a reason for the predominance of multicoloured decks. Want to have both restoration angel  and Thragtusk  ? well, you have to go selesnya then.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 16, 2013 - 5:42PM
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Mono decks are still relevant. It just happens that green and blue aren't. Green because monogreen was never relevant, and blue because Cavern of Souls .
Mono green was relevant as recently as m13 standard, and mono black and mono white are pretty bad now, because if you don't have the super aggressive rdw deck, it's hard to justify not playing multicolored in a standard with 20, soon to be 30, dual lands in print.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 17, 2013 - 7:48AM
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Mono decks are still relevant. It just happens that green and blue aren't. Green because monogreen was never relevant, and blue because Cavern of Souls .
Mono green was relevant as recently as m13 standard, and mono black and mono white are pretty bad now, because if you don't have the super aggressive rdw deck, it's hard to justify not playing multicolored in a standard with 20, soon to be 30, dual lands in print.
I'm pretty sure Thragtusk decks usually splash another color.
But yeah, it is tough to justify playing mono with so many dual lands.
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