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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:18AM #1
shalafibahamut
Date Joined: Nov 12, 2012
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i got on battle field:

splatter thug

faerie invaders                                      my oppy has sentinel spider


does first strike mean that my opponent has to block the splatter and cant chose to block the faeries?
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:19AM #2
FezzHead
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No, first strike does not restrict your opponent's ability to block anything.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:21AM #3
shalafibahamut
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Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:19AM, FezzHead wrote:

No, first strike does not restrict your opponent's ability to block anything.





does first strike work only when your opponent controls a creature with firststrike aswel then?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:22AM #4
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no

first strike just means that the creature with first strike will typically strike in the first combat damage step

each combat phase can have 1 or 2 combat damage steps, if there are no creatures in combat with first or double strike, then there is only one combat damage step, otherwise there are two.

Creatures with double strike typically strike in both damage steps
Creatures with first strike typically strike in the first damage step
Creatures without first or double strike typically strike in the second damage step when there are two damage steps, otherwise they strike in the first step
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:23AM #5
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First strike means that the creature will deal combat damage before any creatures without first strike or double strike. First strike on an unblocked creature often doesn't matter much, but if your opponent blocked your Faeries with his Spider, you could cast Fog after your Splatter Thug had already its dealt combat damage to your opponent and save your Faeries.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:26AM #6
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First strike and double strike both create a second combat damage step. and they let those creatures deal combat damage in the first combat damage step while all other creatures, that don't have either ability, have to wait for the second. double strike lets the creature deal damage in both of those steps.

Since the combat damage turn based action is followed by a check of SBA and all players get to do stuff before the next combat damage step begins, a creature with first/double strike can potentially kill its blocker/blocked attacker without recieving any combat damage itself.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:30AM #7
shalafibahamut
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Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:23AM, FezzHead wrote:

First strike means that the creature will deal combat damage before any creatures without first strike or double strike. First strike on an unblocked creature often doesn't matter much, but if your opponent blocked your Faeries with his Spider, you could cast Fog after your Splatter Thug had already its dealt combat damage to your opponent and save your Faeries.





is it like opening a gap for you to be able to play an instant during combat step?


If at least one attacking or blocking creature has first strike or double strike (see rule 702.4) as the combat damage step begins, the only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are those with first strike or double strike.


can the spider block both 1. and 2. steps as he has vigilance?

what i dont get is . what really happens when there is only 1 creature with first strike on the battle field and non other like double strike or so.

well being able to play an instant there is something :D
im realy trying to understand pls exuse  if im sounding way too noob :D
 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:36AM #8
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Here is a quick breakdown of the combat phase.

1. Begining of combat
2. Declare attackers
3. Declare blockers
4. Combat damage step
5. End of combat

All players get priority in every step.  If there is at least one creature with first or double strike, the combat phase gets an extra step.

1. Begining of combat
2. Declare attackers
3. Declare blockers
4a. First combat damage step
4b. Second combat damage step
5. End of combat

If you have an attacker with first strike, that does not mean the defending creature can block twice (there isn't an extra declare blockers step, just damage step)
Vigilance has no impact when you are blocking, only attacking.

Yes, having the extra combat damage step does mean all players get an extra priority before normal combat damage to cast spells/abilities, so you can do things like fog, or bounce creatures after first strike damage.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:37AM #9
shalafibahamut
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Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:26AM, rezzahan wrote:



Since the combat damage turn based action is followed by a check of SBA and all players get to do stuff before the next combat damage step begins, a creature with first/double strike can potentially kill its blocker/blocked attacker without recieving any combat damage itself.





does that roughy mean that 

  3/3 and 6/6 can fight in the first step  and at the second step you can hit the    ex6/6    new3/3 ( the other is dead) with a volcanic hammer  

and get done with it ?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 15, 2013 - 10:37AM #10
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Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

is it like opening a gap for you to be able to play an instant during combat step?



Yes. If a creature with first strike or double strike is involved in combat, there are two combat damage steps instead of one. Players may cast spells and activate abilities as normal in both of these steps.

Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

can the spider block both 1. and 2. steps as he has vigilance?



No. There is still only one declare blockers step per combat. Once the spider has been declared as a blocker, it can't change what it's blocking later in that same combat.

Jan 15, 2013 -- 10:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

what i dont get is . what really happens when there is only 1 creature with first strike on the battle field and non other like double strike or so.



There will still be two combat damage steps in this case.

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