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6 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 4:18PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 14, 2013
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I've actually only started played in the last week, wiith a "Deck-Builder Toolkit," but I've quickly fallen in love with the game, and especially mono-green decks. I've won eight or nine out of ten matches with it, maybe a better percentage (of course, it was against a new player like myself). I don't actually have this deck, but I would very much like to put this or something close to it together in the future. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on how to improve it.
Deck size: 80 (Too big?)
Creatures (including Artifact Creatures): 26
Artifacts (not including Artifact Creatures): 4
Other spells: 24
Lands: 26
Dungrove Elder x2
Primordial Hydra x1
Timberland Guide x3
Borderland Ranger x3
Arcbound Worker x2
Arcbound Stinger x2
Sentinel Spider x2
Deadly Recluse x2
Dawntreader Elk x1
Elvish Visionary x1
Toxic Ooze x1
Mwonvuli Beast Tracker x2
Bond Beetle x3
Elderscale Wurm x1
Ring of Kalonia x4
Hunger of the Howlpack x1
Ranger's Path x2
Natural End x4
Naturalize x4
Blanchwood Armor x4
Revive x2
Fog x3
Plummet x2
Prey Upon x2
Forest x26
It primarily has a "Get Big" kind of focus, adding a LOT of +1/+1 counters on to creatures. I play my friend with a more basic version of this, and I've beaten him with 1/1 creatures that actually had 12/12 due to counters. The reason for 8 enchant-busters is that I really hate Oblivion Ring, Pacifism, etc. Thoughts?
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6 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 5:08PM
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6 months ago ::
Jan 14, 2013 - 5:31PM
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First off, what is a toxic ooze? But anyway, 80 is too many for a deck. You usually want 60. That said, you can easily cut some of the cards in your list. natural end  and naturalize  are conditional, because your opponent needs to have an artifact or enchantment out in order them to be at all worth casting, so I would cut all four natural end and play only 2 naturalize Cards like dawntreader elk  and borderland ranger  are better in multi-colored decks where you need to fix your mana, but because this is mono-green, llanowar elves  and arbor elf  do the trick for cheaper. Because you no longer have 80 cards, you can trim the number of forests down to 23 or so- play with the deck and see what is necessary and if you are adding the one mana accelerators you can have less if its in your budget rancor  is a bomb and pairs nicely with dungrove elder  (which you should get more of if you can) Cards that just arent that good in general: Sentinel Spider Arcbound Stinger Fog (it can be okay in some decks but doesnt really fit here) Timberland Guide Thats all I got
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6 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 12:31PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 14, 2013
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Thanks for linking the cards, first off. By Toxic Ooze, I meant Acidic Slime ('cos I'm an idiot), which is a 3-green 2-colorless 2/2 creature that has Deathtouch and "When ~ enters the battlefield, you may remove target non-creature permanent." Come to think of it, it's actually not that great...
The reason I had Dawntreader Elk and Borderland Ranger instead of Arbor Elf and Llanowar Elves was for Dungrove Elder. I like the Arcbound creatures and Timberland Guide because of the theme of adding +1/+1 counters. Fog was for when I would be building up Dungrove Elder and Primordial Hydra, not wanting to block with them while they're still low on power/toughness.
Finally, winnowing down Naturalize and Natural End makes sense, but on that note, are there any green counter-spells?
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6 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 1:06PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 28, 2011
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5 months ago ::
Jan 15, 2013 - 6:52PM
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See, this is why I came to you guys. I'm getting a better understanding of how to build a good deck, and I haven't even heard of a lot of these cards (I told you I was new). This being the case, I've totally revamped my deck, although it still probably needs some (a lot of) touching up: Deck size: 65 Llanowar Elves  x2 Arbor Elf  x2 Bond Beetle  x2 Obstinate Baloth  x1 Dungrove Elder  x3 Wickerbough Elder  x2 Dauntless Dourbark  x1 Leatherback Baloth  x2 Awakener Druid  x2 Timbermaw Larva  x2 Deadbridge Goliath  x2 Strangleroot Geist  x2 Primordial Hydra  x1 ~ Beacon of Creation  x2 Ring of Kalonia  x2 Blanchwood Armor  x2 Beastmaster Ascension  x1 Plummet  x2 Revive  x2 Naturalize  x2 Rancor  x3 Forest  x25 Again, this probably needs some more work, so any further ideas are most welcome
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:35AM
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My suggestion would be -2 ring of kalonia  -2 bond beetle  -2 naturalize And add in some more ramp spells which because your deck cares about the number of forests in play I feel should be the type of ramp which pulls out forests. An example might be cultivate  which ramps by 1 and also gives you an additional land drop for the future. But choosing the ramp package is up to you. Some may prefer the arbor elf and overgrowth  package.
Don't be too smart to have fun
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 2:54AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 17, 2003
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Welcome to the game and the boards, Gurran! I'm a fan of drawing more than one card a turn. Green does this most easily via Harmonize  , but thematically through Hunter's Insight  and Soul of the Harvest  , among other cards. Perhaps some Yavimaya Elder  s and Mwonvuli Beast Tracker  s for a bit of search? Maximize the Beast Tracker by mostly/only running critters you can fetch... like Pelakka Wurm  and Acidic Slime  . I have a thing for Silklash Spider  , as well. Cheers!
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2013 - 3:56AM
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You dont need 25 lands in this deck. 23 should do the trick and you should still try to get more mana elves
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