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Flag CadaverousBl00m January 13, 2013 9:10 PM PST


Lord of the Void (Mythic) -
Creature - Demon
Flying
Whenever Lord of the Void deals combat damage to a player, exile the top seven cards of that player's library, then put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield under your control.
7/7

Source: GatheringMagic via MTGS
Flag Suudsu2200 January 13, 2013 9:11 PM PST
Yay...
Flag DerMeisterDoktor January 13, 2013 9:12 PM PST
I want one for my Monoblack EDH deck
Flag TV_Casualty January 13, 2013 9:12 PM PST
Fatty demon face for the set. *shrug*

Good in EDH, etc. 
Flag JohnnyComeLately January 13, 2013 9:12 PM PST
I guess things are just a whole lot better in the Void than they are in the Pit.
Flag MrIndigo January 13, 2013 9:13 PM PST
Limited BUSTA. Possibly the best black creature for the EDH format.
Flag darklight_tr January 13, 2013 9:13 PM PST
Holy crap - and into my Rakdos, Lord of Riots EDH deck this goes!
Flag Suudsu2200 January 13, 2013 9:13 PM PST
In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 
Flag oOSNOWFOXOo January 13, 2013 9:14 PM PST
Yay, another thing I can chuck in my Kaalia deck as soon as I pull one.
Flag Echo_Robin January 13, 2013 9:14 PM PST
Mills and kills. I like it. Plus it probably won't do anything outside of casual, so I won't have to sell my liver to get one.
Flag Mesmerist January 13, 2013 9:16 PM PST
Was excited by the name while afraid that I'd be let down again like leyline phantom. I absolutely love him and the art is just icing on the cake. In standard in addition to Rites we'll also have the ability to turn 4-turn 5 ramp out this guy or Griselbrand thanks to Crypt Ghast. Awesome.
Flag darklight_tr January 13, 2013 9:16 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 



Do you think that every card Wizards prints must be Standard playable?  I know its shocking, but there are other formats.

Flag JohnnyComeLately January 13, 2013 9:17 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.

Flag RorixCollector January 13, 2013 9:17 PM PST
This set is terrible.
Flag demidracolich January 13, 2013 9:18 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 



Not everything is good in edh, lightning bolt isn't in edh, nor is tarmogoyf, abrupt decay, goblin guide, or other cheap and efficent cards good in normal constructed. Cards that are efficient and good in normal constructed arent necessarily good in edh while cards that are powerful but costly are more likely to be good.

Flag CommanderGreven January 13, 2013 9:18 PM PST
Should be awesome with Kaalia
Flag CadaverousBl00m January 13, 2013 9:19 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 




Nah, it's only everything with CC5+.

Flag Weisse January 13, 2013 9:19 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, RorixCollector wrote:

This set is terrible.



Beyond the 7CMC lolwut cycle, it's not so bad.

Flag MrIndigo January 13, 2013 9:22 PM PST
The reason you see "Good in EDH" a lot is because lots of people don't understand the EDH format very well, and assume that anything with a casting cost too high for constructed competitive must be good in EDH.

This guy, though, is definitely good in EDH - very few black creatures besides Grave Titan or Rune-Scarred Demon are comparable to this beast.
Flag Suudsu2200 January 13, 2013 9:22 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.




I was using hyperbole. Every stupid creature that costs 6+ mana and does some overcosted and conditional effect is heralded by at least 6 "Right into my EDH deck!" comments.

And no, not everything has to be standard playable, but outside-of-EDH playable would be nice. I like commons/uncommons you get to see in draft even if they're not standard playble. I love voidweilder, for instance. This, however, is the kind of card that will very rarely ruin a limited game and other than that will ONLY see play in EDH. It's frustrating how mythics are either OMGWTFBBQ $20 cards or just stone-cold unplayable . No one wants to open mythics that are just unplayable, you feel shafted every time. At least I get excited about revelation type stuff even if it shouldn't be mythic.

Mythic rarity was such a great idea.

Flag Wynzerman January 13, 2013 9:24 PM PST
Neat, I don't care for it, but it has a smiling Atog in the art (seriously, what is it with the hidden smiley faces in RTR block...)
Flag Enigma256 January 13, 2013 9:27 PM PST
this is awesome
Flag Kazepenku January 13, 2013 9:36 PM PST
oh hi Griselbrand of library hate =)

oooh I lied this is cheaper than you Griselbrand. 
Flag Kazepenku January 13, 2013 9:40 PM PST
lol now monoblack has a new toy =)

Crypt Ghast + This + Rogue's Passage 

4 black mana needed to cast this, then a rogue's passage each turn =O
Flag darklight_tr January 13, 2013 9:46 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:22PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I was using hyperbole. Every stupid creature that costs 6+ mana and does some overcosted and conditional effect is heralded by at least 6 "Right into my EDH deck!" comments.

And no, not everything has to be standard playable, but outside-of-EDH playable would be nice. I like commons/uncommons you get to see in draft even if they're not standard playble. I love voidweilder, for instance. This, however, is the kind of card that will very rarely ruin a limited game and other than that will ONLY see play in EDH. It's frustrating how mythics are either OMGWTFBBQ $20 cards or just stone-cold unplayable . No one wants to open mythics that are just unplayable, you feel shafted every time. At least I get excited about revelation type stuff even if it shouldn't be mythic.

Mythic rarity was such a great idea.



I agree with you here.  Being an EDH player Mythics are usually exciting for me as they are nearly universally playable ( with some exceptions .)  If you aren't into EDH Mythics are the rollercoaster of which you speak.

Flag rafe62 January 13, 2013 9:47 PM PST
I dun see smiles.
Flag FirstTurnKill January 13, 2013 9:50 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:22PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

I was using hyperbole. Every stupid creature that costs 6+ mana and does some overcosted and conditional effect is heralded by at least 6 "Right into my EDH deck!" comments.



It's really only because EDH is a very popular singleton format.  Since most players probably don't own complete sets of the vast majority of expansions, nearly every costly card is good for someone in EDH, because they can probably replace a worse card they have with the new one.  Even though, in a truly competitive, mind-blowing, extremely well-tuned EDH deck, most of those cards aren't actually very good.

Couple all that with the facts that the EDH overseers willfully attempt to have EDH *not* devolve into the kind of format dominated by those decks, keep most of the format multiplayer, and EDH isn't terribly competitive right now, and you have a recipe for almost every card that's bad in standard to be good for a lot more people in EDH.

So, yeah -- standard is going to get like twenty-ish or so competitive cards from a new large set (because I guess Wizards just doesn't want to actually keep all the new card designs relatively close to each other in the power curve), but EDH is going to get like 70+.

Flag Kazepenku January 13, 2013 9:55 PM PST
 with crypt ghast and heartless summoning, this can come out on turn 5.
Flag Decktesting54 January 13, 2013 9:56 PM PST
yayay a big fat fattie for black with fun ability, I only wish it had trample that would make him really good, can't wait to hit my enemy then use their own angel of serenity against them.

 Im gunna play him with heartless summoning , crypt ghast and zealous conscripts giving him haste so the other guys like wtf where did that come from later in the game.
Flag RPJesus January 13, 2013 10:09 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 



You know, joking aside this is actually pretty baller in EDH, thanks to a certain five letter word that says "Have fun running 112 recursion cards in a 99 card deck, every EDH deck ever."

Flag HairlessThoctar January 13, 2013 10:11 PM PST
What Jesus said.

Hosing recursion is such a big deal, getting dudes on top of it?
Brilliant.  
 
Flag Earthdawn January 13, 2013 10:19 PM PST
I want to use it with Griptide or Azorius Charm ^.^
Flag Flopfoot January 13, 2013 10:43 PM PST
Are there any Timmies on FCaSS or is the whole subforum about arguments between spikes who play standard and spikes who play commander?
THIS CARD IS AWESOME
Flag Suudsu2200 January 13, 2013 10:46 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 10:43PM, Flopfoot wrote:

Are there any Timmies on FCaSS or is the whole subforum about arguments between spikes who play standard and spikes who play commander? THIS CARD IS AWESOME




I'm pretty sure foruming about magic is a pretty spike environment in general.

Flag Doaj January 13, 2013 10:46 PM PST
I'm a little disappointed. Don't get me wrong; I like the card well enough. But I thought it was going to be have a lord ability based on the name. I like playing standard tribal decks (just recently started playtesting a bird tribal that's performing pretty well). so the lack of static pump makes me sad.
Flag RPJesus January 13, 2013 11:04 PM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 10:46PM, Doaj wrote:

I'm a little disappointed. Don't get me wrong; I like the card well enough. But I thought it was going to be have a lord ability based on the name. I like playing standard tribal decks (just recently started playtesting a bird tribal that's performing pretty well). so the lack of static pump makes me sad.



Exiled creatures you own get +1/+1 :33.

Flag Shadowchu January 13, 2013 11:36 PM PST
I didn't read the thread. Would this be good in a/n "X" EDH deck? 
Flag TEA_DEMON January 14, 2013 12:30 AM PST
ok this one seems pretty mythic i have to say.
Flag Fenix. January 14, 2013 12:33 AM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:22PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

Mythic rarity was such a great idea.



This card is actually what should be Mythic, not Lotus Cobra and Sphinx's Revelation .

Flag Nocculum January 14, 2013 12:49 AM PST
Reanimater target for Unburial Rites if I ever saw one...
Flag IAmKingTony January 14, 2013 1:01 AM PST
Love it. Goes into my Kaalia EDH deck and could also sneak into some reanimator stuff.

Also with so many "just play the best creatures" midrange decks going around, this thing will probably land you something decent.
Flag Rokukel January 14, 2013 2:45 AM PST
Pretty great.
Flag Mown January 14, 2013 3:13 AM PST

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.



Calling spot removal "pointless" is pretty bold, and most likely incorrect.

Flag MrIndigo January 14, 2013 3:28 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 3:13AM, Mown wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.



Calling spot removal "pointless" is pretty bold, and most likely incorrect.




It's not great; it generally has to be very flexible.

Otherwise, you're spending a card to drop an opponent's card, and all your opponents but that one are effectively up one card.

Flag RPJesus January 14, 2013 3:41 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 3:13AM, Mown wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.



Calling spot removal "pointless" is pretty bold, and most likely incorrect.



I wouldn't say it's pointless, but when a Reaper King deck in full swing can't keep up with the ridonkulonkulous levels of recursion everybody runs, spending a deck slot on Murder can feel pretty silly.

Flag Themisto January 14, 2013 3:42 AM PST
Depending on the price ill get one just for the art.
Flag desolation_masticore January 14, 2013 4:32 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 3:13AM, Mown wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:17PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Jan 13, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

In before everyone ever says "Good in EDH" and acts like that's an excuse for this miserable card.

If everything is good in EDH, doesn't that mean nothing is good in EDH? 


Everything isn't good in EDH.

Spot removal , minor card advantage , and tempo advantage are pointless.



Calling spot removal "pointless" is pretty bold, and most likely incorrect.



Right? I mean Phthisis is boss in EDH, right guys?

Flag FirstTurnKill January 14, 2013 7:06 AM PST
The only spot removal I run in EDH nowadays is stuff that doesn't "destroy" -- too much Forge and Avacyn -- Banishing and Swords are okay, as is Tragic Slip.  It's few and far between, though, and it needs to be able to take care of most of the threats.

Most of the rest of the spot removal is pretty crap.
Flag Glare_of_the_Loxodon January 14, 2013 7:35 AM PST
Another huge black demonic fatty which won't be Constructed playable. -_-"
Flag niheloim January 14, 2013 7:49 AM PST
Phthisis?... I haven't thought of that card since last I recommended a new edh player take it out of their deck...

I like this guy... might be better than nefarox or nightmare in edh... but I'm not excited.
Flag John_Q._Mayhem January 14, 2013 9:37 AM PST
I play Phthisis out of sheer, undiluted love
Flag NZB2323 January 14, 2013 9:42 AM PST
So is this guy part of Dimir or Rakdos?
Flag Mown January 14, 2013 9:43 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:42AM, NZB2323 wrote:

So is this guy part of Dimir or Rakdos?



He's part of Black.
Not every citizen, or monster, is part of a guild.

Flag NZB2323 January 14, 2013 9:50 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:43AM, Mown wrote:

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:42AM, NZB2323 wrote:

So is this guy part of Dimir or Rakdos?



He's part of Black.
Not every citizen, or monster, is part of a guild.




Well, he seems to be in a leadership position and has a lot of followers. Rakdos would make sense because he's a demon, and Dimir would make sense because he mills.

Flag sage62 January 14, 2013 10:22 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:50AM, NZB2323 wrote:

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:43AM, Mown wrote:

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:42AM, NZB2323 wrote:

So is this guy part of Dimir or Rakdos?



He's part of Black.
Not every citizen, or monster, is part of a guild.




Well, he seems to be in a leadership position and has a lot of followers. Rakdos would make sense because he's a demon, and Dimir would make sense because he mills.




He doesn't fit the aesthetics of either of those guilds, and while his ability does indeed fit the Dimir, they do not employ demons, let alone ones that command armies. That is incredibly un-Dimir. As for Rakdos, it's possible, but as far as I know the only demon with a leadership position amongst the Rakdos is Rakdos himself so it seems unlikely.

Flag LMTRK January 14, 2013 10:40 AM PST
I want to play this in a mirror match, then pull a second one off the top of my opponent's library. :P

~ Tim 
Flag longwalrus January 14, 2013 11:09 AM PST
Standard 'big dumb creature too overcosted to see play' card. Seems like the density of these kind of cards is higher in GTC than usual, what's up with that?
Flag RPJesus January 14, 2013 11:19 AM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 11:09AM, longwalrus wrote:

Standard 'big dumb creature too overcosted to see play' card. Seems like the density of these kind of cards is higher in GTC than usual, what's up with that?



Gearing up for DGM. Because any good Labyrinth needs monsters.

Flag Kazepenku January 14, 2013 12:53 PM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:42AM, NZB2323 wrote:

So is this guy part of Dimir or Rakdos?




Part Dimir, Part Rakdos.

Dimir for the Library hate, Rakdos for the Creature stealing.

Though seeing rakdos go for aggro, this might be more a dimir strategy... I mean, stolen identity-able and clonable. Why not? Reanimate this with 5 mana and spend 4 or so to make more of them. Make a damned house of Lords while we're at it. =D

Flag Sir_Kraemer January 14, 2013 1:48 PM PST
Perhaps the "Void" is the enemy in Dragon's maze?
Flag Kazepenku January 14, 2013 1:59 PM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:48PM, Sir_Kraemer wrote:

Perhaps the "Void" is the enemy in Dragon's maze?




that sounds plausible. Though Ravnica plots are always long-winded and full of branches, so...

Flag RPJesus January 14, 2013 2:16 PM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:59PM, Kazepenku wrote:

Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:48PM, Sir_Kraemer wrote:

Perhaps the "Void" is the enemy in Dragon's maze?




that sounds plausible. Though Ravnica plots are always long-winded and full of branches, so...



Like Trostani, amirite?

Flag Portalis January 14, 2013 2:26 PM PST
misinformation will be fun with this demon
Flag thepersondude January 14, 2013 3:43 PM PST
ME GUSTA. Very nice trollin' card!
Flag Kazepenku January 14, 2013 7:30 PM PST
Maybe side in this instead of griselbrand when someone is playing Zoo.
Flag Pontiac January 14, 2013 8:41 PM PST
he's a meanie, I like it!
Flag bay_falconer January 15, 2013 4:15 PM PST

Jan 14, 2013 -- 2:26PM, Portalis wrote:

misinformation will be fun with this demon




Fateseal?

Flag Nocculum January 15, 2013 5:12 PM PST
I thought the Void was the 10th District?
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