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6 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 9:41AM #1
WotC_JohnS
Date Joined: Mar 17, 2012
Posts: 481
This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 1:38AM #2
Highwayman
Date Joined: Feb 3, 2004
Posts: 3,133
We've come a long way since Moroii . Or rather, mythics have ( although this could have easily been a rare ).

This is really a bit of a cash-down design. This will remind everyone of Bob , a $40 modern staple, and with a 4-power-for-4-with-evasion body (as opposed to the do-nothing-body that was dark tutelage ), I suspect there will a stampede for this card initially.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 1:42AM #3
rexman07
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2007
Posts: 69
Wow, that was a lot of buildup, Mr. Flores.

Pretty cool card. Not obviously overpowered, but full of nuance in deckbuilding and gameplay. I can't wait to see it in action.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 6:21AM #4
Guest2042683381
Date Joined: Mar 10, 2009
Posts: 32
I'm actually really not that impressed with that card.  Dropping a 4/4 flyer for 4 really isn't all that impressive.  On top of that giving your opponents the ability as well makes me go eh.  Of course it could  turn out to be the perfect card for the meta-game  but I agree that it will be a chase rare at first and then ignored.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 7:31AM #5
lungsoftheocean
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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Its mana cost is it's biggest downside, but you DO get great value for what you pay for. 4/4 flier for 4 in UB is pretty great. I'm super excited to play around with this. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 10:59AM #6
gruulsmash
Date Joined: Apr 14, 2012
Posts: 318
so for all that set up about good creatures, we get...



A fixed bob. wow....
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 12:02PM #7
Senyuno
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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I just personally hate pushed Mythics. You push too hard, and it winds up 4 copies in every deck. Nothing rare about that.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 12:26PM #8
beank091787
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
Posts: 68
I love the 4/4 flying for 4. That is always nice.

But I have always hated Bob and his finger prints on this card make me want to stay away from it.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 1:31PM #9
ZursApprentice
Date Joined: May 5, 2009
Posts: 184
"Fixed" Bob is right, but this creature is very "fixed".  The reason why Bob was so good is because it had that ability for 1B, which means that it was cheaper than Phyrexian Arena, a similar card.  You can see from Bloodgift Demon that this ability just isn't that good at 5, even if it comes attached to a 5/4 flying body, which is very telling.  So this ability probably isn't that good on a 4cc creature.  On top of that, it's a symmetrical ability.  Now we know that great players can manipulate symmetrical abilities to their advantage.  In theory it would be pretty good in UB aggro as a better Moroii because a dimir aggro deck like that could use extra cards and that lifeloss would hurt an opponent more than you if you were on the offensive.  However, does a Dimir aggro deck exist today?  No.  Maybe one will arise with cipher, idk.  Right now the card seems like a miss.  Better than Bloodgift Demon but worse (much worse) than Bob.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2013 - 1:55PM #10
gruulsmash
Date Joined: Apr 14, 2012
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i know, im just saying that all this hype is not good, and, from my position, this should have been spoiled along with the whole set. but blue-black zombies is certainly possible. and this might be a finisher card or fit in a control deck, i dont know what uses it has. but it is certainly not a "look at this cool new mythic" because its not new. (also, bloodgift demon is arguably worse cuz it  easier to kill)
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