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I have 120 hours logged in Duals so I wouldn't call myself the worst magic player, yet I can't understand how I can come close to beating this deck.

I understand the general weakness is the lack of creatures but I don't get how I can deal with the fact that they have a metric ton of removal and a massive amount of ways to build mana and draw cards.  It'd be different if it was difficult to get 1 of each mana color, but this deck has it easy.

My online games today (about 80% of who I've played today has used MM) have been a bad showing for my favorite decks.  My regular Ancient Wilds/Pack Instinct/Berserker decks haven't stood a chance.  As soon as I put out a creature it died.  I sat there my first game today to watch every creature I put out wth Pack Instinct get destroyed by three vindicates in a row, all the while my opponent kept on generating mana until he put out his uncounterable Hydra.  If I had gone back to my GG roots a twister would have wiped the floor with me, a day of judgement would have ruined my day, or the new jund card that let's you do two damage to every creature on the board for 3 mana.  (Or, like other charms in the same deck, have the amazing versitility to chose two other options.)  I even had two hex-proof creatures out in one game but the twister doesn't care for those.

Even though I hate playing Jayce and CW I went back to those decks and gave it a shot.  My most notable cross-winds was countering Maelstrom Archangel from coming into play with three counter spells.  (Because Mana Mastery can literally do anything, including bringing cards back from the grave.)  The problem with my CW strat was I never got bribary or a time warp onto my mirror.  I got a total of 10 drakes out into play with Talrand and sorcery cards but, like any strat I've tried using any type of any creature, they were wiped out almost instantly.  I have yet to win with my CW deck either.

The only deck I have had success with is Jayce.  I specifically built a Jayce deck for insane removal and control spells and it worked wonders. 

Is the only deck that counters MM Jayce?  I've tried almost every deck at this point, and GP/Jayce/Burn seem like the only three decks that stand a chance against MM, while MM seems to counter the vast majority of decks in the game.

Jan 9, 2013 -- 7:12PM, Stevolutionary wrote:

Removal heavy Black should do a job. Iy has a ton of removal for the creatures and can Befoul and Icy Maniplate certain lands to lock that colour down. It has a few large creatures of its own and can steal some of the better ones from MM's graveyard.

That's a good idea.  I'll have to dust off that deck as well.  I could easily see it being a toss up though because MM also has a ton of removal.  (The base deck without any unlocks gives you 3 day of judgements, 3 vindicates, and 2 twisters.  You unlock even more than this.)

If you get lucky enough to steal the Hyrda that's probably Black's best chance.

My big problem against this deck though is that I like to win with creatures.  I can't see very many decks that win with any combination of creatures standing a huge chance against MM.  They seem to have way too many answers for almost any situation.  I'm tinkering with my Burn deck again, but like I said, I hate playing Jayce/Burn.  If MM is going to be the "beknighted" of 2013 though, then I guess I'll have to get used to it.

The only deck that can steal pregenitus is crosswinds, cuz that card will never touch the GY.

Jan 9, 2013 -- 7:16PM, fluffyburrito wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 7:12PM, Stevolutionary wrote:

Removal heavy Black should do a job. Iy has a ton of removal for the creatures and can Befoul and Icy Maniplate certain lands to lock that colour down. It has a few large creatures of its own and can steal some of the better ones from MM's graveyard.

If MM is going to be the "beknighted" of 2013 though, then I guess I'll have to get used to it.

There's way to many decks to counter MM. It's not nearly as OP as BK was.

Jan 9, 2013 -- 8:40PM, aaronjoncheney wrote:

Mana Mastery is POWERFUL

Funfact:

Mana Mastery has more Mythic Rare spells than Common Spells.