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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 11:47AM #11
RonZuid
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Everyone thanks for the quick answers. It's appreciated! 
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 12:11PM #12
2goth4U
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Tristan82: If you haunt the forum for a while, you'll learn a lot.

Indicating "as far a you understand" is a valid proviso, but you may be doing the OP an injustice if your understanding is incorrect as you'll be passing along misinformation.

I'm not criticising or removing your right to post rather I'm merely explaining the rationale behind why others have posted what they posted.

Fortunately, there are many knowledgeable people here who will correct any misunderstandings that you may happen to have.

As to your post:

Jan 8, 2013 -- 11:08AM, Tristan82 wrote:

As far as I understand, yes you can, since while your Ezuri is being targeted that means Terror hasn't resolved yet, so you can use its ability and place it on the stack, this will have it resolve first (the +3/+3) and then Terror will resolve.


it's technically correct that Ezuri being targeted logically leads to the spell being on the stack and therefore that the spell hasn't finished resolving, it doesn't logically follow that one can respond. They can respond to the spell before it starts to resolve, but not after it starts to resolve. Obviously, other factors may also play a part in whether it can be responded to as well.

Jan 8, 2013 -- 11:08AM, Tristan82 wrote:

You can't interrupt a creature's ability if the spell doesn't say so.


there are no spells that allow an ability to be "interrupted", there are spells that can counter an ability or spells that can end the turn (thereby exiling the ability), but no spells that can "interrupt" a resolving ability.

Jan 8, 2013 -- 11:08AM, Tristan82 wrote:

For instance if you have Thraben Doomsayer and you tap it to place a token, and then your opponent uses a Searing Spear on him, both spell and ability go to the stack in the cast order, so at the end both will resolve.


yes, an ability is independent of its source
it's not clear in the way you worded it, but the activated ability goes on first, then the opponent casts Spear after the ability is already on the stack.

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Astarael7: "Does 121.1 imply that players are supposed to wear their poison counters?"
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 12:40PM #13
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 12:59PM #14
scampb
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Is there anything in the rules of posting that prohibit someone that is not a rules advisor from responding to rules questions.  Those that have commented about leaving the job to the pros are going down a slippery slope.


I for one want to be given accurate timely responses to my questions since most come up during game play.  And so far, people have been great at responding in a timely manner.  This forum is a great place to learn.


However, I would rather be given a response that may be a bit misleading in a timely manner than get no response at all.  Any clarification can be given by a rules advisor after the fact.


So, unless there is a 'rule' that prohibits someone from answering rules questions we should not be asking nor expecting people not to respond and help those in need.


Just my two mana's worth.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 1:01PM #15
Enigma256
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nono, you are free to answer to the best of your knowledge (that's how I started and got some things wrong, still do on occasion )

if someone screws up there is generally a correction within minutes and everyone has learned something

not sure why some people are so hostile to new people
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 1:02PM #16
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Jan 8, 2013 -- 12:59PM, scampb wrote:

Is there anything in the rules of posting that prohibit someone that is not a rules advisor from responding to rules questions.


Nope. Anyone is allowed to post; tanuki-maro and dragon_nut were stating their personal opinions.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2013 - 1:24PM #17
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I post regularly and I've let my Rules Advisor status lapse so no, there's absolutely no requirement.

and even Rules Advisor certification isn't that distinguishing, it means you passed a multiple choice test of 25 basic to intermediate questions concerning rules interactions.

Anyone is free to answer, but that doesn't equate to just anyone should answer.

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RPJesus: "Man, screw the rules, I'll play a game of 2HG Archenemy Planechase Emperor EDH draft yet. Once I figure out the rules for it..."
Chaikov: "Of course, casual Magic may be played any way your Pokemon group agrees on..." and "It's not logic. It's Magic!"
GainsBanding: "I only play online.  The Magic Online shuffler is AWESOME!"
Ikegami: "one might think [adult cats] would make excellent tokens. The issue, though, is that they are very hard to exile. They return to the battlefield more often than an undying creature."
Astarael7: "Does 121.1 imply that players are supposed to wear their poison counters?"
Bimmerbot: "If you move the wrong way and [the poison counters] fall, it's a game rule violation"
Helluminatus: "Just remember, if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but the oracle text says creature - Bunny , then by god, it's a bunny."
MadCow21: "Who are you and what have you done with the real Chaikov?"

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