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5 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 3:37PM #1
Shadowdeux
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2012
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So, while watching Magic on Twitch.tv today I stumbled accross a magic match that was a bit odd:

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This led me to wonder why people play this way and a place for people to share odd stories about the stuff. I'm interested to hear why. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 3:57PM #2
Enigma256
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you mean the lands in front of the creatures? that is indeed strange
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 3:59PM #3
Shadowdeux
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:57PM, Enigma256 wrote:

you mean the lands in front of the creatures? that is indeed strange



I don't think my picture was the best or the forum decreased the size but the playe on the left is playing with his cards upside down in relation to himself as well. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 4:26PM #4
Escef
Date Joined: Jul 23, 2003
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:59PM, Shadowdeux wrote:

Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:57PM, Enigma256 wrote:

you mean the lands in front of the creatures? that is indeed strange



I don't think my picture was the best or the forum decreased the size but the playe on the left is playing with his cards upside down in relation to himself as well. 



Lands "above" creatures is the way I've been doing it since '94. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but it isn't that weird.

As for the cards upside down, that's pretty spiffy. It's a courtesy to the opponent, it makes it easier for the opponent to read your cards. And I honestly have to admit, if you don't know what your own cards do in a constructed game, you're doing something wrong.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 4:33PM #5
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 4:26PM, Escef wrote:

Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:59PM, Shadowdeux wrote:

Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:57PM, Enigma256 wrote:

you mean the lands in front of the creatures? that is indeed strange



I don't think my picture was the best or the forum decreased the size but the playe on the left is playing with his cards upside down in relation to himself as well. 



Lands "above" creatures is the way I've been doing it since '94. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but it isn't that weird.

As for the cards upside down, that's pretty spiffy. It's a courtesy to the opponent, it makes it easier for the opponent to read your cards. And I honestly have to admit, if you don't know what your own cards do in a constructed game, you're doing something wrong.



Yeah, that's the most common uncommon one and I'm used to it. I'm guessing some people aren't. 

It felt like he was making it like modo for his opponent and even tapped the creatures in the same direction as modo too. 

I've had an opponent break things up vertically with lands on the left and non-land permanents on the right. It was just very odd.  

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 9:10AM #6
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 4:26PM, Escef wrote:

Lands "above" creatures is the way I've been doing it since '94. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but it isn't that weird.




I started in 94 too, and I also play lands above creatures.  I've had a discussion with others about this, and one guy remembered that at the time, that's how the rulebook showed it. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 11:37AM #7
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I prefer creatures out front, lands closest to me, other stuff nearby.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 12:01PM #8
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I understand that people do this simply because they are used to doing it that way, but I've always found it somewhat annoying.  It almost feels as though the other person is childishly trying to hide something from me.

Why not put the relevant cards that do things in front where your opponent can easily read them without having to ask you to hand it over?
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 12:34PM #9
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Jan 6, 2013 -- 12:01PM, Taldier wrote:

Why not put the relevant cards that do things in front where your opponent can easily read them without having to ask you to hand it over?



Because I arrange my permanents for my use, not my opponent's. Does my opponent tap my creatures to attack or my lands for mana? Generally not. If they have questions or need to see something I gladly answer  or let people see cards.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 12:51PM #10
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 3:59PM, Shadowdeux wrote:

I don't think my picture was the best or the forum decreased the size but the playe on the left is playing with his cards upside down in relation to himself as well. 



I'll do this when teaching new players.  But other than that, I don't.  It's a weird habit to get into.

Jan 5, 2013 -- 4:26PM, Escef wrote:

Lands "above" creatures is the way I've been doing it since '94. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but it isn't that weird.



I still fall back into this old habit sometimes.  It's how *everyone* played back then.  I'm pretty sure the 4th/5th edition rulebook depicted it that way.

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