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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 8:32PM
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If I have two wild beastmasters and attack how big will they be?
Both 2/2's or is one a 2/2 and one 3/3?
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 8:42PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2009
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Without pumps from other sources, one will be a 2/2 and one will be a 3/3. The X is not determined in Wild Beastmaster  's ability until the ability resolves, and as such one will be under the influence of the other's pump. Meaning that it's own pump will be +2/+2. So you'll have a 2/2 Beastmaster (+1/+1) A 3/3 Beastmaster (+2/+2) And any other creature you control will be +3/+3
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 8:53PM
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Thanks can I get a rules advisor or judge to confirm because my friend is being a dick thanks
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 8:59PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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JaxsonBateman is a level 1 Judge (check his sig) and he's correct
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 9:02PM
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Sorry apparently the sig is not shown on the mobile site
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 9:14PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2007
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Thanks can I get a rules advisor or judge to confirm because my friend is being a dick thanks
The Rules Advisor test is so damn easy, I've never mentioned I passed it. I'd rather just show the rules and explain what they mean.
611.2d If a resolving spell or ability that creates a continuous effect contains a variable such as X, the value of that variable is determined only once, on resolution. See rule 608.2g.
608.2g If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself or a target that’s become illegal, the effect uses the current information of that object if it’s in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it’s no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object’s last known information. See rule 112.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it’s the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the ability.
This confirms it's set on resolution.
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6 months ago ::
Jan 03, 2013 - 9:17PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2005
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Anyone could claim to be a judge, and many users who post here are not judges but know the rules very well. If an incorrect answer is given, it will usually be spotted and corrected quickly.
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