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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 11:59AM #1
scampb
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How do you get rid of a creature that is 'indestructible'?  Any card ideas for a green deck or a red deck? 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 12:00PM #2
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This is not a rules question. Please reask your question in the appropriate deck building forum.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 12:20PM #3
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Well, to be fair, it's slightly a rules question if you interpret it as "what can remove an indestructible creature from the battlefield?".

As the name implies, "indestructible" simply means "can't be destroyed". Lets use our friend Darksteel Myr to demonstrate.

The following cannot get rid of Darksteel Myr :

*A destroy effect, such as that of Doom Blade or Wrath of God .
*Lethal damage, such as from a noncombat damage , combat damage or damage from a source with deathtouch .

Besides that, indestructibility doesn't help a creature at all - that is, anything else you might use to get rid of a creature will work. Examples are:

*Reducing its toughness to 0 or less, such as through Tragic Slip or Black Sun's Zenith
*Causing your opponent to sacrifice it, such as through Consuming Vapors or Ashling, the Extinguisher
*Bouncing it, such as through Evacuation or Into the Roil
*Exiling it, such as through Swords to Plowshares or Final Judgment
*Sending it to the library, such as through Bant Charm or Terminus

I feel like I may have forgotten something, but in anycase, the aforementioned methods work. You can also 'premove' it with either a counterspell or discard spell, or you can take control of it on the battlefield with something like Mind Control or Volition Reins .

Hopefully this helps you out a bit with the rules and ways of dealing with indestructibility. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 12:20PM #4
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The first question, at least, has rules nuances (the asker may not know what rules do or do not prevent the removal of an indestructible creature).  Some people might not realize, for instance, that an indestructible creature can be removed by reducing its toughness to 0.  Or by forcing its controller to sacrifice it.  Some particularly rules-oblivious players might not realize that indestructibility doesn't stop effects that send a card to exile, or to owner's hand, or shuffle into / to the bottom of library.

Jan 3, 2013 -- 12:20PM, JaxsonBateman wrote:

I feel like I may have forgotten something, but in anycase, the aforementioned methods work. You can also 'premove' it with either a counterspell or discard spell, or you can take control of it on the battlefield with something like Mind Control or Volition Reins .




Or if you can't take control of it, you can at the very least neuter it right in the field of play .

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 2:10PM #5
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Green tactics to deal with an indestructible creature in standard?
Defense: Block him with a bigger creature or your indestructible creature , prevent his damage  
Offense: Trample 

Red tactics to deal with an indestructible creature in standard?
steal & sac
exile it
ban it  
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 3:10PM #6
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Jan 3, 2013 -- 12:20PM, JaxsonBateman wrote:

Well, to be fair, it's slightly a rules question if you interpret it as "what can remove an indestructible creature from the battlefield?".


Twist all you want, but it's clear he wants help building a deck. It's easy to tell: The answer requires one to know the answer to "What format?". Once you realize it's a deck building question, it becomes clear that the question is missing a lot of information that would generate a good answer for the OP.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 3:11PM #7
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Jan 3, 2013 -- 3:10PM, ikegami wrote:

Jan 3, 2013 -- 12:20PM, JaxsonBateman wrote:

Well, to be fair, it's slightly a rules question if you interpret it as "what can remove an indestructible creature from the battlefield?".


Twist all you want, but it's clear he wants help building a deck. It's easy to tell: The answer requires one to know the answer to "What format?"


there are rules question that require that answer as well

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 3:29PM #8
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Jan 3, 2013 -- 2:10PM, 2goth4U wrote:

Green tactics to deal with an indestructible creature in standard?
Defense: Block him with a bigger creature or your indestructible creature , prevent his damage  
Offense: Trample 

Red tactics to deal with an indestructible creature in standard?
steal & sac
exile it
ban it  




Non-standard, but Infect and Wither to achieve 0 toughness

Jun 24, 2012 -- 9:44AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:



As long as it's random, I really can't see where's the problem. Anyway, there's already a few standard ways for doing this. We listed them in this thread. If someone does the bogey-bogey, eats the cards, waits until they come out, look out the approximate order, place replacements in the same order, calls the president to ask him to give him a string of numbers, puts the card in the given order, then pick the cards in the order given by taking the date of birth of his opponent, reversed, and taking only every other number, then a judge can clearly declare that he's random enough.


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 2:11AM #9
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Rules question? Have you read the Basic rulebook already? No? Why not take some time to do that?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 2:17AM #10
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Jan 3, 2013 -- 3:10PM, ikegami wrote:

Twist all you want, but it's clear he wants help building a deck. It's easy to tell: The answer requires one to know the answer to "What format?". Once you realize it's a deck building question, it becomes clear that the question is missing a lot of information that would generate a good answer for the OP.



I don't think I'm even twisting it at all - the OP's first question is "how do you get rid of a creature that is indestructible?", that right there is a rules question.

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