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6 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 3:41PM #71
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 11:22PM, RPJesus wrote:

We lp this is happening .




I thought of Riku of Two Reflections myself.

Jun 27, 2012 -- 12:04AM, GM_Champion wrote:

Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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6 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 10:30PM #72
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You know, you can always Mirrirweave on your opponent's turn so your triggers will resolve first. Still dangerous if they have 4+ creatures and enough removal to take you down below 4, but potentially faster... and much more exciting.
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2013 - 2:06PM #73
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 11:10AM #74
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I'm all for adding a few curve balls into magic, but I have just never been a fan of instat win cards, and so far this set now has two. 

The dragon seemed a little funny, because it is a common idea that dragons love hoarding metals of almost any kind, so one that steals artifact and wins you the game if you have enough made sense.

But this just seems like a hassle. Because unlike the dragon he doesn't even help you, he just sits there making you do all the work, what am I his butler? "

 

   
   
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 7:29PM #75
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 11:07AM, Taramoor wrote:

Mirrorweave doesn't seem like a good idea.

If they have four creatures out or are able to flash out a creature in response you playing Mirrorweave, you could pretty quickly find yourself throwing the game.



This happens at the end step, so they would need four creatures and enough removal to take you down to three creatures.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 7:41PM #76
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1 x Cackling Counterpart
1 x Clone
1 x Evil Twin
1 x Infinite Reflection
All of these cards can copy him.  Cackling counterpart makes two of him, clone, evil twin and infinite relection copy all of the beasties running the format right now ( Angel of Serenity and Thragatusk being the best guys running around are both great to copy.  Imagine Infinite reflection on Thragatusk!  Cloning Angel of Serenity? Epic.)and the deck would be able to mirror match against any creature deck.
 
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 05, 2013 - 8:18PM #77
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 3:14PM, FortuneRahl wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 3:10PM, Nivean_Dauphin wrote:

Mirrorweave could lose you the game, but you could choose to have yours trigger before the opponents so they fact they were about to win didn't matter, unless they reduce the number of Biovisionaries you ahve to less tahn three while having four creatures open, which seems a justifiable risk. 




No, your opponent will win. You Biovisionaries will trigger, then your opponent's creatures will trigger. Theirs resolves first.




Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.

You cast Mirrorweave on your opponent's turn. Each of you ends up with at least four Biovisionaries . Game progresses to the end step. Triggered abilities that trigger "at the beginning of the end step" or any specific time trigger simultaneously for all players, and this will include a trigger from EACH card named Biovisionary . The active player, being whose turn it is in this case, then gains priority and begins putting his abilities on the stack; then the inactive player (which would be YOU), gains priority and puts his abilties on the stack. If both players then pass priority, the top triggered ability on the stack resolves, and in this case the inactive player (YOU), wins.

If you 'Weave Biovisionary on your OWN turn, your opponent wins, instead.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 9:46AM #78
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Mostly correct, except this bit: "The active player, being whose turn it is in this case, then gains priority and begins putting his abilities on the stack; then the inactive player (which would be YOU), gains priority and puts his abilties on the stack."


Which should be more like: The active player's triggers are put on the stack, then the other player's triggers are put on the stack, THEN the active player gets priority.


But the end conclusion is sound.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 11:04AM #79
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But again, there's a lot of risk involved in that you have to maintain control of at least four Biovisionaries before the trigger resolves.  If you're running something like Infinite Reflection at least all that happens is you don't win.  If you're running Mirrorweave then you LOSE.

Again, higher risk, but it's an Instant which gives you more activation leeway. 
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6 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2013 - 11:08AM #80
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Heck, why not just run Esper self mill with Angel of Glory's Rise ? Biovisionary is a human, after all.


It'd be really silly, to say the least.
I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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